Car in garage for 3 months-full of fuel or empty?
Car in garage for 3 months-full of fuel or empty?
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bull996

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1,442 posts

231 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Which is best, or does it not matter?

CoolHands

22,028 posts

217 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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It'll be fine either way. That whole 'petrol goes off' thing is way overdone.

RDMcG

20,375 posts

229 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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I store some cars in the winter. I fill them and use a bit of fuel stabilizer,add some air to the tires, leave the handbrake off and leave the windows open a crack, and cover them. ( Obviously stored inside). TBH for only three months fuel stabilizer not really necessary.

JAHetfield

443 posts

171 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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I'd recommend brimming the tank to keep moisture out.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

173 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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For 3 months – it won't make any difference.
Like someone said.
Handbrake off, windows open a tiny bit.

If you think the battery may be old then perhaps wire up a trickle charger.
Flat batteries can make alarms go off and lose memories of secondary blippers – depending on the age of the car.
Or, just disconnect the battery entirely and take it inside.

E30M3SE

8,483 posts

218 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Mine been hibernating for a month already and will probably remain so until March/April currently sitting with less than 20 litres.

bull996

Original Poster:

1,442 posts

231 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Thanks for the help. I have it on a Ctek maintenance charger, but just wondered about the fuel. I had heard that full is better as it stops moisture building, but then someone else said no, the fuel will go off.

All cleared up now!

BJT

2,344 posts

269 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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I leave my car for three months at a time and always fill the tank up.
It is always nice to have a full tank ready for play time when you get back! Plus, you may save a couple of pounds with the way things are going...

james_tigerwoods

16,344 posts

219 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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I'd be more concerned about the battery....

craig2003

1,209 posts

228 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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I bought my GTO after it being laid up for 5 years, all fluids changed apart from the fuel which was almost a full tank, it got through the MOT, passed the emissions test and run with no problems

Huff

3,367 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Tank empty, esp. if a modern fuel injection system.

3months is around the limit for stability in pump fuels. Petrol loses octane rating, becomes slower burning (can damage cat) and If nothing else, you don't want to pay for 50+litres you drain - waste! - later for fear of gumming-up injectors /carb (yes, it does happen)

Or you can leave the tank near-empty. This means you leave it closed-up with 50-70litres of air in it. From the psychrometric chart you can actually work out how much water vapour is carried in the air in the tank. It's going to be of the order of .... 0.2-0.5grammes. Really; it is that negligible, providing there's no significant airflow though the tank while not used (ie - you leave the filler cap on) If 1/2 gramme of water condenses out - no problem at all.

So I'd leave the tank empty, drain off what remains before chucking in a gallon of new stuff for first restart and you'll be sweet.

bazking69

8,620 posts

212 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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I'd leave it with no more than a quarter, and brim it with some fresh stuff when you put it back on the road.

nouze

853 posts

199 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Mr PhD in car fuellogy said:
Tank empty, esp. if a modern fuel injection system.
Wow, I mean WOW.

Wacky Racer

40,471 posts

269 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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CoolHands said:
It'll be fine either way. That whole 'petrol goes off' thing is way overdone.
Sorry, not true.

The "flashpoint" of petrol goes off after several months. I once bought a motorbike that hadn't been started for several months, it just would not start. Drained the tank, refilled with "fresh" petrol started second kick. Similarly with lawn mowers stored over winter.

In any case a car with a "full" tank is more of a fire risk.

Hence why it's not a good idea to buy petrol from a quiet country garage down a quiet lane which sells 300 gallons a week.

(all imho)

rallycross

13,675 posts

259 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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3 months is not worth even thinking about this!

jeff m2

2,060 posts

173 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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rallycross said:
3 months is not worth even thinking about this!
3 Months in a cold place it is.
Full tank reduces tank condensation.

Fuel Stabaliser for 3 months is matter of opinion, so why not just put it in before its last run. I assume everyone realises it is for the whole fuel system not just the tank. Why risk the alternative!

If my lawnmover and snowblower get "Stabil" I'm certainly gonna dose up my summer cars.
What's the augument, It's a couple of bucks.

NHK244V

3,358 posts

194 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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plastic tank? empty as you like
metal? as full as you can

CoolHands

22,028 posts

217 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Wacky Racer said:
CoolHands said:
It'll be fine either way. That whole 'petrol goes off' thing is way overdone.
Sorry, not true.

The "flashpoint" of petrol goes off after several months. I once bought a motorbike that hadn't been started for several months, it just would not start.
Sorry, is true.

I leave my petrol lawnmower every winter for several months. It always starts right back up again. Left it for about a year once, & I've never done fk all to it. Started right up. I left my car for about a year off the road, again, started right up again no problem, and no problems since.

y2blade

56,258 posts

237 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Snowboy said:
For 3 months – it won't make any difference.
Like someone said.
Handbrake off, windows open a tiny bit.

If you think the battery may be old then perhaps wire up a trickle charger.
Flat batteries can make alarms go off and lose memories of secondary blippers – depending on the age of the car.
Or, just disconnect the battery entirely and take it inside.
this^^^

jas xjr

11,309 posts

261 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Is the petrol tank steel or plastic ? Mine was empty when I parked it up. When I started using the car again it blocked up the fuel filters. Had to change the petrol tank in the end