Taxing a car.....How daft is this??
Taxing a car.....How daft is this??
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nottyash

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4,671 posts

224 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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Ive just bought a £1000 runabout, a VX Astra which has a Disabled tax disc on it.
Same as any other tax disc only a £0.00 fee and disabled written on it.

The seller said I should change it and send him that one back.
I drove to the Post office with insurance, V5 slip, and MOT but was told I would have to go to nearest DVLA office and do it there as no post office could tax it with it saying "disabled" on the log book.
I said it is taxed till July 2012, but its disabled and I am not travelling a 60 mile round trip to tax a car. I was told thats the only way.

It was bad enough queing in the post office behind all the old duffers for 20 minutes to be told this.
Anyone any thoughts or experience of this?
I was going to wait and see if the new V5 in my name comes with instructions what to do.




tyranical

927 posts

219 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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Can see this going rapidly down the road of "why don't disabled people have to pay car tax like the rest of us" that we've seen several times on here.


Gruber

6,313 posts

243 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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ShayneJ

1,073 posts

208 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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nottyash said:
Ive just bought a £1000 runabout, a VX Astra which has a Disabled tax disc on it.
Same as any other tax disc only a £0.00 fee and disabled written on it.

The seller said I should change it and send him that one back.
I drove to the Post office with insurance, V5 slip, and MOT but was told I would have to go to nearest DVLA office and do it there as no post office could tax it with it saying "disabled" on the log book.
I said it is taxed till July 2012, but its disabled and I am not travelling a 60 mile round trip to tax a car. I was told thats the only way.

It was bad enough queing in the post office behind all the old duffers for 20 minutes to be told this.
Anyone any thoughts or experience of this?
I was going to wait and see if the new V5 in my name comes with instructions what to do.
motor requires a change of taxation class from disabled to PLG and a new disk issued
this can only be done by your local DVLA office so sorry you WILL be going on that 60 mile trip if you want to use the car sorry.

scorcher

4,123 posts

263 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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Can't you download the forms and do it by post? Changed private plates etc in the past by post and its usually back within a week.Takes the aggro out of wasting half a day travelling then standing in a queue out the door and being grunted at by some old duffer behind a glass panel.And it'llcost a fraction of the price too.

SS2.

14,710 posts

267 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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ShayneJ said:
motor requires a change of taxation class from disabled to PLG and a new disk issued
this can only be done by your local DVLA office so sorry you WILL be going on that 60 mile trip if you want to use the car sorry.
yes That was exactly what we had to do when the company purchased an ex-NHS vehicle last year.


nottyash

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4,671 posts

224 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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SS2. said:
ShayneJ said:
motor requires a change of taxation class from disabled to PLG and a new disk issued
this can only be done by your local DVLA office so sorry you WILL be going on that 60 mile trip if you want to use the car sorry.
yes That was exactly what we had to do when the company purchased an ex-NHS vehicle last year.
Damn. This isnt looking good

warch

2,941 posts

183 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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I had to do this too with an old Omega I had. Looking on the bright side, I imagine most disabled people are careful drivers, so your new car should be in good nick.

Astra Dan

1,910 posts

213 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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The rules on taxing a car are utterly stupid and out of date. I think the last few cars I've bought weren't taxed, and it was probably a weekend when I bought them. I just couldn't be arsed to worry, so just got it insured and drove the cars home.
It's crazy you're actually trying to tow the line and give the Gov money, yet they put so many rules in place to stop you or make it difficult I can't be bothered to play their game.
They always win in the end of course, thanks to the fact you have to tax back to the start of the month.
So old fashioned compared to everything else. You can insure a car in minutes from a smart phone on the seller's driveway, but tax it? No way hose.

Superhoop

4,911 posts

222 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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This isn't just taxing a car though is it? It requires a change of use from disabled, to PLG

So not daft at all really

Astra Dan

1,910 posts

213 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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Yeah, which in an ideal world could just be a drop down option on a website, or a phone call, then verified afterwards.

CarlT

3,424 posts

276 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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No choice I'm afraid!

johnpeat

5,329 posts

294 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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warch said:
I had to do this too with an old Omega I had. Looking on the bright side, I imagine most disabled people are careful drivers, so your new car should be in good nick.
Aside from being a horrendous generalisation - the state of most cars going through Motability auctions would suggest you're WAY WAY wrong...

I've no idea how cars can get this tatty - buik-sale fleet stock is minty by comparison...

nottyash

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4,671 posts

224 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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The cars OK, clean and well kept, but its only an Astra and I cant get excited about itsmile

Ive emailed the local DVLA office.
It is absurd that you have to jump through so many hoops and its not possible to tax a car easily in 2011. I actually thought the department of transport was sorting its st out......How wrong am I?

warch

2,941 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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johnpeat said:
warch said:
I had to do this too with an old Omega I had. Looking on the bright side, I imagine most disabled people are careful drivers, so your new car should be in good nick.
Aside from being a horrendous generalisation - the state of most cars going through Motability auctions would suggest you're WAY WAY wrong...

I've no idea how cars can get this tatty - buik-sale fleet stock is minty by comparison...
Aren't motability cars provided gratis to disabled people? I imagine they get a real pasting. Mine was privately owned by a disabled bloke.

Cleckheatonlock

4,292 posts

263 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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warch said:
Aren't motability cars provided gratis to disabled people? I imagine they get a real pasting. Mine was privately owned by a disabled bloke.
Not free, you can take the car in exchange for your DLA. The tax, insurance, servicing, tyres etc. are free as part of the cost of the lease.

I think the tatty ones are probably from the people who, maybe, shouldn't be receiving the DLA in the first place wink

Dad is considering getting one when him and mum retire. Has his own car at the moment but just likes the idea of no headaches

Morba

621 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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warch said:
Aren't motability cars provided gratis to disabled people? I imagine they get a real pasting. Mine was privately owned by a disabled bloke.
Depends on the level of motobility payment I think. We have had 3 ex motability cars, all were in very good condition.

RenesisEvo

3,826 posts

248 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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johnpeat said:
warch said:
I had to do this too with an old Omega I had. Looking on the bright side, I imagine most disabled people are careful drivers, so your new car should be in good nick.
Aside from being a horrendous generalisation - the state of most cars going through Motability auctions would suggest you're WAY WAY wrong...
I would add that 'disabled' covers a wide range of things; also the disabled person isn't necessarily the person who drives/looks after the car. You also have to consider those who aren't necessarily being honest with regards to their status. Then consider how they might treat a car that's not theirs. I know I'm generalising but I hope you can see the point I'm making.

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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I'm in the same position, I bought my wife a focus in October taxed as disabled, within a couple of days a letter and form came through for me to fill in, it was a change of taxation class form, I sent it off and heard nothing.

I rang the DVLA this afternoon and he told me to send off the green slip, MOT (doesn't need one), V10, V62 and a cheque.

He said in a week it'll be changed over taxed in its new class and I'll get my V5.

I hate the DVLA, without doubt the most difficult organisation to deal with.

rolleyes

nottyash

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4,671 posts

224 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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I am making the trip tomorrow after work. I rang the DVLA and eventually spoke to a Robot with a Welsh accent, imagine how stupid that would be? laugh

He told me to go to Beverley with an MOT, insurance and a form V10, I said are you sure as I dont want to mess about, and he replied thats all I need.
I checked online and it said I need Insurance, MOT and a form V62!! so Ive no idea whos right.

I am taking both forms, getting it taxed and sticking a complaint in for them making the whole process so difficult and expensive.

I think disabled people should pay and claim it back like we have to everything else, then we wouldnt need a "Disabled" tax class on a vehicle so no need for any aggro, but then thats sensible and not made up by 1000 Welsh chimps sat in Swansea with no idea what a car isjester