saab's are they a good bargain barge proposal?
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ive seen a few pop up in the 1-5k barge thread but they always seems to get glossed over compared to e38/39 etc etc.
i can see them having a few plus points with them usually been much newer and id imagine cheaper to run and more economical.
But on a down side they arnt really truly wafty in the same way as 7's and s class but they do seem to be fairly nice.
what are the ones to go for at say 3k.
i can see them having a few plus points with them usually been much newer and id imagine cheaper to run and more economical.
But on a down side they arnt really truly wafty in the same way as 7's and s class but they do seem to be fairly nice.
what are the ones to go for at say 3k.
skilly1 said:
With the diesels watch out for clogging of the EGR and needing to replace parts, cost me £1000 to sort out. I now know it is a known problem but meant a cheap temp barge ending up not being so!.
Not unique to Saab and some people end up buying brand new ones when all they needed is cleaning out. The FSA 1.9 TID engine can have a few injector wiring issues, which can present them selves as EGR faults. Replacement wiring is only £20. Don't know if you'll be able to get that part easily though
My 9-3 is an excellant cruiser and very comfortable over long journys. I'd recommend it
Efbe said:
wait 3 months, and the prices will have dropped significantly following the news of saab going bust I reckon.
people with newer saabs will be wanting to sell up, this will in turn knock on to the older saab market.
Hmmm, i'm not sure about that. Yes they will drop in price, but remember most Saabs are bought by people who have only bought Saab before there is a lot of brand loyalty, and i think prices won't be as effected as you think.people with newer saabs will be wanting to sell up, this will in turn knock on to the older saab market.
Please note don't hold this against me!
0077 said:
Hmmm, i'm not sure about that. Yes they will drop in price, but remember most Saabs are bought by people who have only bought Saab before there is a lot of brand loyalty, and i think prices won't be as effected as you think.
Please note don't hold this against me!
MG ZT-T's are significantly cheaper than equivalent Saab 9-3's, Alfa 156s etc of the same age. I expect/hope Saabs will do the same.Please note don't hold this against me!
We've just bought a 9-5 Aero estate. It's a lovely old thing. Not a driver's car in my book - big, heavy, front wheel drive, turbocharged, four cylinders and an engine that's all mid range not being a fun combination for me - but extremely comfortable, ergonomically sound, very commodious, very safe, well equipped, quiet, smooth riding, certainly brisk enough, reasonably economical for a 1740kg 250bhp car. Even looks OK, in a respectable, not at all flash kind of way. Doesn't seem to appeal to the disreputable in the same sort of way that a similarly cheap BMW does, either.
Residuals on newer cars will be hit, no doubt, and that will gradually filter down. Ours cost less than 2k, and it's a lot of car for the money - I suspect that the buyers who would be put off buying an old Saab because of Saab's closure would probably be too risk averse to buy an old Saab in the first place. We could have got a Rover 75 or MGZT a couple of years newer for the same money, but their residuals were pretty appalling even before Rover went down the tubes, and Rover did so somewhat more publicly than Saab as far as the general British public are concerned. Doesn't really matter to us, to be honest, we'll be maintaining it at independent specialists and keeping it 'til it dies.
Residuals on newer cars will be hit, no doubt, and that will gradually filter down. Ours cost less than 2k, and it's a lot of car for the money - I suspect that the buyers who would be put off buying an old Saab because of Saab's closure would probably be too risk averse to buy an old Saab in the first place. We could have got a Rover 75 or MGZT a couple of years newer for the same money, but their residuals were pretty appalling even before Rover went down the tubes, and Rover did so somewhat more publicly than Saab as far as the general British public are concerned. Doesn't really matter to us, to be honest, we'll be maintaining it at independent specialists and keeping it 'til it dies.
Use mine (9-5) to go the long commute (150 miles), armchair on the motorway. Set cruise control, get the slippers out with a good book and wake up at work and get nigh on 40 to the gallon from an auto petrol. I did search for a big depreciation when I bought it several years ago and liked the body protection so hopefully a few years left in it. No good on the twisties but I mainly use it for the M way slog and it has flappy gears if you want to play.
BarnatosGhost said:
Hmm, inferior to an E39 in just about every single way. The only real reason to choose one is because you don't want/like an E39.
For the money we wanted to spend, we'd have been looking at a much slower, older and/or leggier five series estate. Given that part of the brief was not to be as crap in winter weather as the two rear drive cars on the driveway, the BMW's chief dynamic advantage was also undesirable. Depends what you want, though. This is meant to be functional, comfortable transport, if I wanted another fun car I wouldn't be looking at barge sized offerings.
0077 said:
Efbe said:
wait 3 months, and the prices will have dropped significantly following the news of saab going bust I reckon.
people with newer saabs will be wanting to sell up, this will in turn knock on to the older saab market.
Hmmm, i'm not sure about that. Yes they will drop in price, but remember most Saabs are bought by people who have only bought Saab before there is a lot of brand loyalty, and i think prices won't be as effected as you think.people with newer saabs will be wanting to sell up, this will in turn knock on to the older saab market.
Please note don't hold this against me!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Saab-9-3-XWD-2-8-V6...
jmorgan said:
Use mine (9-5) to go the long commute (150 miles), armchair on the motorway. Set cruise control, get the slippers out with a good book and wake up at work and get nigh on 40 to the gallon from an auto petrol. I did search for a big depreciation when I bought it several years ago and liked the body protection so hopefully a few years left in it. No good on the twisties but I mainly use it for the M way slog and it has flappy gears if you want to play.
that sounds good ! i only do 60 miles each day but id like to do it in comfort the roads are in no way dynamically challenging so handling isnt really high up the list of desirables i suppose skilly1 said:
BarnatosGhost said:
Hmm, inferior to an E39 in just about every single way. The only real reason to choose one is because you don't want/like an E39.
Apart from price which is what the OP is on about.That the Saab will be younger and lower miles doesn't outweigh the above.
All that says to me is that in another 2 years the Saab will be basically worthless, where the shallower curve of the BMW will leave you with some value, and still a better car.
otolith said:
BarnatosGhost said:
Hmm, inferior to an E39 in just about every single way. The only real reason to choose one is because you don't want/like an E39.
For the money we wanted to spend, we'd have been looking at a much slower, older and/or leggier five series estate. Given that part of the brief was not to be as crap in winter weather as the two rear drive cars on the driveway, the BMW's chief dynamic advantage was also undesirable. Depends what you want, though. This is meant to be functional, comfortable transport, if I wanted another fun car I wouldn't be looking at barge sized offerings.
Trustmeimadoctor said:
jmorgan said:
Use mine (9-5) to go the long commute (150 miles), armchair on the motorway. Set cruise control, get the slippers out with a good book and wake up at work and get nigh on 40 to the gallon from an auto petrol. I did search for a big depreciation when I bought it several years ago and liked the body protection so hopefully a few years left in it. No good on the twisties but I mainly use it for the M way slog and it has flappy gears if you want to play.
that sounds good ! i only do 60 miles each day but id like to do it in comfort the roads are in no way dynamically challenging so handling isnt really high up the list of desirables i suppose Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff