Leaky Sunroof - Temporary Solutions Needed
Discussion
Right, my 605 seems to let in a fair bit of water due to the seals on the sunroof being well past their sell by date! Being something thats quite rare these days I don't know as yet if I can get replacement seals. Even if I can I don't want to start spending a lot of money on what is my winter shed/bargain barge!
The sunroof electrics work perfectly so I don't want to disable it altogether so I'm trying to work out the best way of temporarily sealing it.
I think there are two options open to me, either tape or silicone sealant of some sort. This is where I need the advice/experience of the PH masses!
Option A, I need recommendations for tape that is near invisible but will seal properly against the paintwork/glass on sunroof. If tape it must be easily removable after a couple of months and not destroy the paint upon removal. Would insulating tape work?
option B is silicone sealant but again if going down this route I want something that once applied can be easily peeled off from round the sunroof after a few months.
The car lives outside so will be subject to rain, wind, snow etc over the next few months so I don't want to ruin the interior....
Over to you lot, any advice or indeed other ideas are very welcome
The sunroof electrics work perfectly so I don't want to disable it altogether so I'm trying to work out the best way of temporarily sealing it.
I think there are two options open to me, either tape or silicone sealant of some sort. This is where I need the advice/experience of the PH masses!
Option A, I need recommendations for tape that is near invisible but will seal properly against the paintwork/glass on sunroof. If tape it must be easily removable after a couple of months and not destroy the paint upon removal. Would insulating tape work?
option B is silicone sealant but again if going down this route I want something that once applied can be easily peeled off from round the sunroof after a few months.
The car lives outside so will be subject to rain, wind, snow etc over the next few months so I don't want to ruin the interior....
Over to you lot, any advice or indeed other ideas are very welcome
A new seal is the way to go.
Tape won't last long and silicone will be a PITA to remove later.
If you can see the bit where its leaking (assuming its just a part of the seal that faulty) you may be able to bodge just that bit with silicone. You'll have to let it dry of course which may not be easy if it lives outside.
Tape won't last long and silicone will be a PITA to remove later.
If you can see the bit where its leaking (assuming its just a part of the seal that faulty) you may be able to bodge just that bit with silicone. You'll have to let it dry of course which may not be easy if it lives outside.
trickywoo said:
A new seal is the way to go.
Tape won't last long and silicone will be a PITA to remove later.
If you can see the bit where its leaking (assuming its just a part of the seal that faulty) you may be able to bodge just that bit with silicone. You'll have to let it dry of course which may not be easy if it lives outside.
Thats assuming a seal is available, and as I say I'm not about to start spending lots of cash (garage labour) on what is something just to keep me going until next year when I buy a new car.Tape won't last long and silicone will be a PITA to remove later.
If you can see the bit where its leaking (assuming its just a part of the seal that faulty) you may be able to bodge just that bit with silicone. You'll have to let it dry of course which may not be easy if it lives outside.
Its a Pug 605 which are rather uncommon these days, it has the factory fit electric sunroof. I may be able to get the part from Peugeot but I don't hold much hope.
Eighteeteewhy][blue peter]sticky back plastic[/blue peter said:
Over the whole sunroof, it won't look pretty. Just make sure you clean the metal properly before sticking on.
All I need is to do a strip round the edge over the current seal to stop the worst of the water getting in. I want to be able to use it again in the summer and peeling stacks of tape off is going to make it look really bad.I've been suggested to use vaseline on the current seal to see if that helps bring it back to life so I'm going to try that first, after that probably some black insulation tape. If it keeps the worst out over winter I'll be happy.
A quick ebay search popped this up http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAR-VAN-SUNROOF-SEAL-WAT... probably won't allow you to open/close the sunroof regularly, but I'd have thought that correctly applied it should make it watertight.
I've just done a trawl of french Ebay and couldn't find anything, at least 605 specific. I did find a complete sun roof assembly but thats no real use!
The leak is fairly bad on the drivers side, passenger side is dry though. I'll check for drain holes as above and see what I can find.
Liking the sound of the aluminium speed tape... question is will it come off again!! Not sure I'll be going for too many speed records
The leak is fairly bad on the drivers side, passenger side is dry though. I'll check for drain holes as above and see what I can find.
Liking the sound of the aluminium speed tape... question is will it come off again!! Not sure I'll be going for too many speed records
littleredrooster said:
I *think* the 605 has a drain tube at each side of the sunroof (inside the roof lining). If these become blocked, the assembly will leak into the cabin.
Might be worth trying to clear them before resorting to more radical methods.
This is my thoughts as well. The seal is only to keep back vast quantities of water, the drains deal with most of it. A speedo cable or a length of electrical wire is the way to go. DON'T be ham fisted if you split the pipe or push it off it will be much more work!Might be worth trying to clear them before resorting to more radical methods.
tr7v8 said:
littleredrooster said:
I *think* the 605 has a drain tube at each side of the sunroof (inside the roof lining). If these become blocked, the assembly will leak into the cabin.
Might be worth trying to clear them before resorting to more radical methods.
This is my thoughts as well. The seal is only to keep back vast quantities of water, the drains deal with most of it. A speedo cable or a length of electrical wire is the way to go. DON'T be ham fisted if you split the pipe or push it off it will be much more work!Might be worth trying to clear them before resorting to more radical methods.
my alfa was awash a couple of years ago (different cars i know). After a bit of research it turned out that there are non return valves at the bottom of the drain tubes (one for each corner). They get clogged up with age, the water backs up and escapes at the joins in the tubes or just doesn't drain at all. I cut the valves off and blew the tubes out with an airline, haven't had a problem since... I periodically blow the tubes out just to be sure. When i first cut the valves off a load of water gushed out - at that point I was confident I'd found the cause.
350Wedge said:
Liking the sound of the aluminium speed tape... question is will it come off again!! :
Do not use this is removal is of concern.They use it to protect the metalwork underneath turbines in helicopters.
I used to clean helicopters when they came in for service, I used to have to remove all the tape and adhesive so that the rivets could be inspected. It was not fun.
Couldn't use gloves, too slippery, couldn't use bare hands, removes skin after a while! I had to use scraps of rag to give me grip and pull it off in ring pull sized pieces!
I'm afraid that there is only one decent solution to allow the leak to be fixed but retain functionality, a new sunroof seal, I know you don't want to spend money but it's either sunroof and a bit of cash or no sunroof and no cash!
tr7v8 said:
littleredrooster said:
I *think* the 605 has a drain tube at each side of the sunroof (inside the roof lining). If these become blocked, the assembly will leak into the cabin.
Might be worth trying to clear them before resorting to more radical methods.
This is my thoughts as well. The seal is only to keep back vast quantities of water, the drains deal with most of it. A speedo cable or a length of electrical wire is the way to go. DON'T be ham fisted if you split the pipe or push it off it will be much more work!Might be worth trying to clear them before resorting to more radical methods.
Stupid question, would the drain hole run along the length of the roof or down the A pillar? Its been raining today so haven't been able to have a proper look so far. Looking to be rain all tomorrow as well typically!
As has already been stated, it will probably be caused by the drain holes being blocked.
I had this problem on a Laguna 2 and I found the best thing to use is a length of the cable used to hold up net curtains as this is just the right size and flexible. Try pouring some warm water down the hole at the same time.
On the Laguna the problem was caused because the drain pipes exit behind the front wheels and get clogged with mud.
I had this problem on a Laguna 2 and I found the best thing to use is a length of the cable used to hold up net curtains as this is just the right size and flexible. Try pouring some warm water down the hole at the same time.
On the Laguna the problem was caused because the drain pipes exit behind the front wheels and get clogged with mud.
350Wedge said:
I have a feeling this may be the issue. The drivers side slide rail under the sunroof is filled with water, I dried it out yesterday but its filled up again with the overnight rain. Car inside is ok though, cant see any extra! Passenger side slide rail under the sunroof is dry with no pooled water. I can only assume the drivers side is blocked.
Stupid question, would the drain hole run along the length of the roof or down the A pillar? Its been raining today so haven't been able to have a proper look so far. Looking to be rain all tomorrow as well typically!
I was going to say drain holes too, the pillar is fairly typical. Try and find the exit before shoving anything down the hole too hard. Stupid question, would the drain hole run along the length of the roof or down the A pillar? Its been raining today so haven't been able to have a proper look so far. Looking to be rain all tomorrow as well typically!
Also wrt seals I wouldn't mind betting those sunroof mechanisms will have been fitted to several European cars so you might get lucky with 406, BX, Lancia etc.
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