Best Sports Two Seater Under £10k
Best Sports Two Seater Under £10k
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carts60

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8 posts

170 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Well this is my first dip into the PH community. So first of all, thanks for having me.

I'm 22 and currently drive a 91 Cooper which is in the process of being stripped out and having a turbo engine built for it.

The time has now come however for a bit of a more luxurious drive and having saved up a few pence, I'm now looking for what would be the best sports 2 seater for under £10k for the summer.

A convertible isn't a necessity but it would be nice in the summer.

The contenders I have in mind at the moment are:
350z
Z4
Boxster
911
Audi TT

It's a close run race in my mind so some guidance from owners with experience would be perfect.


ED209

6,003 posts

266 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Are tt's and 911's not 2 plus 2's?

vx220? elise? s2000? slk? jag xk?

or even mx5?

carts60

Original Poster:

8 posts

170 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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ED209 said:
Are tt's and 911's not 2 plus 2's?

vx220? elise? s2000? slk? jag xk?

or even mx5?
Well yes, 911's and TT's are 2+2's but TT's a 2 seater in convertible form (I think) and the 911 is just too much of a temptation to ignore to not have it on the list...

I'm not a massive fan of the VX220's shape and the elise is a bit too niche for me to be honest.
The S2000 was a consideration but having run an insurance comparison check, at over £2k, i'v ruled it out.

SLK and Jag are not my cup of tea and MX5's are a bit too feminine for me.

redgriff500

28,982 posts

285 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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With this stuff its very subjective.

But how the hell is the TT on the list ?

Having driven them the Boxster is the best to drive but not to throw around.

I prefer front engined and RWD and to my eyes the Z4 is too ugly to consider buying so I'd have the 350Z.

I did consider buying one recently but bought a Monaro instead as I wanted the V8 noise.

You might want to consider a 968 too.

Edited by redgriff500 on Friday 30th December 16:22

kambites

70,629 posts

243 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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You don't really give an idea of what your priorities are... do you want a GT, a sports car, or something that can have a stab at both? Do you need a boot? Do you care about fuel consumption, depreciation, tax, insurance,...

the simple answer is that there's a set of criteria that every car on the market fits, or the car wouldn't be on the market any more. The answer to your question could be a 207CC to a bike engined Seven or anything in between.

carts60

Original Poster:

8 posts

170 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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kambites said:
You don't really give an idea of what your priorities are... do you want a GT, a sports car, or something that can have a stab at both? Do you need a boot? Do you care about fuel consumption, depreciation, tax, insurance,...

the simple answer is that there's a set of criteria that every car on the market fits, or the car wouldn't be on the market any more. The answer to your question could be a 207CC to a bike engined Seven or anything in between.
Priorities are thus:
Sporty looks are a must
2 seats are preferential to four as this means ferrying people here there and everywhere
fuel consumption isn't going to worry me too much as the only time I ever have to drive is the weekends as I commute via train to London every working day and sleep a hefty hangover off on the Saturday morning leaving me with Sat afternoon and Sunday to go places and do things
Depreciation would potentially throw up a few issues but unless we're talking rates of something like an Alpha then i'm not going to lose any sleep.
Tax wise I hadn't really had too much of a think about but around £400 would be the limits to my patience
In terms of insurance, I'v budgeted for anything under £2k a year which covers me for most of the cars mentioned previously.
Boot space would be nice but isn't a maker or breaker as the family Picasso has plenty of room should I need to ship sizeable items around.

Does that make anything a little clearer?

kambites

70,629 posts

243 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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It sounds like your primary concern is looks, which is such a personal thing that it's nigh on impossible to offer any kind of advice. They're all decent, reasonably reliable cars, although I suppose I'd expect the 911 to be considerably more expensive to run than the others because it will be older.

Edited by kambites on Friday 30th December 20:40

NiceCupOfTea

25,530 posts

273 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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You haven't mentioned how important the drive itself and performance are to you? Is it more of a posing car, or do you want some fun?

I think you will be lucky to get much of a 911 for your 10k - either a tired pre-89 targa in a crap colour with the earlier gearbox, or a knackered 996 Tip in dog knob red!

Any reason you haven't considered a TVR Chimaera?

Also, as you have practical everyday transport, how about a classic?

davepoth

29,395 posts

221 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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As far as I'm concerned, sporty looking only looks sporty if it's actually a sports car, otherwise it's a fat bloke in a tracksuit, like the Audi TT.

nakulan7

116 posts

199 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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carts60 said:
Priorities are thus:
Sporty looks are a must
2 seats are preferential to four as this means ferrying people here there and everywhere
fuel consumption isn't going to worry me too much as the only time I ever have to drive is the weekends as I commute via train to London every working day and sleep a hefty hangover off on the Saturday morning leaving me with Sat afternoon and Sunday to go places and do things
Depreciation would potentially throw up a few issues but unless we're talking rates of something like an Alpha then i'm not going to lose any sleep.
Tax wise I hadn't really had too much of a think about but around £400 would be the limits to my patience
In terms of insurance, I'v budgeted for anything under £2k a year which covers me for most of the cars mentioned previously.
Boot space would be nice but isn't a maker or breaker as the family Picasso has plenty of room should I need to ship sizeable items around.

Does that make anything a little clearer?
Looks like you are heading towards a 3 series convertible.

Looks, 4 seats, great to drive, drop top etc.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3067975.htm

kambites

70,629 posts

243 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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He doesn't want four seats and I don't think I'd say the 3-series looks "sporty" - it looks like a two-door saloon with the roof chopped off, which isn't really surprising when you consider that's what it is. smile

wackojacko

8,581 posts

212 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Boxster drives the best out of them in 3.2 S form but if you're worried about image etc out of the list it would be a Z4 3.0....


Excerting from the list I would be looking at :
TVR Chimaeras
Elise's
S2000's

dougc

8,240 posts

287 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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davepoth said:
As far as I'm concerned, sporty looking only looks sporty if it's actually a sports car, otherwise it's a fat bloke in a tracksuit, like the Audi TT.
Yawn.

OP, do you have a hankering for a big noisy V8, a big boot, timeless looks, cheap insurance and a brazen attitude towards safety and grip?

Chimaera....

eastsider

1,101 posts

245 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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NiceCupOfTea said:
I think you will be lucky to get much of a 911 for your 10k - either a tired pre-89 targa in a crap colour with the earlier gearbox, or a knackered 996 Tip in dog knob red!
+1 this. Buy a £10k 911 and expect similar sized bills soon.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

226 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Best sports 2 seater for under 10K

A caterham

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3460337.htm

Or don't you actually want the best sportscar

FreeLitres

6,120 posts

199 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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carts60

Original Poster:

8 posts

170 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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dougc said:
Yawn.

OP, do you have a hankering for a big noisy V8, a big boot, timeless looks, cheap insurance and a brazen attitude towards safety and grip?

Chimaera....
I have to say, of all things important, the highest up there is a fun drive - grippy and nippy with an ounce of grunt would be perfect. Driving a classic mini as the daily gives me the majority of those things but lacks and real conviction in the power department which is why im upgrading really.

Grunt and noise is a big pull factor and I love the sound of the V6 in the 350z but if a car is quiet, thats nothing a stainless sports exhaust system can't help.

Looks are undoubtedly a big factor but performance is key too.

I haven't really looked towards the TVR way because I'v always been of the opinion or been led to believe they're unreliable and thirsty, but the Chimaera is something I would definitely consider having looked over a couple - and at a decent price too.

I'm not a big fan of Bimmers - ubiquitous and too samey samey for my liking. I would also run the risk of looking a chav - young guy trying too hard to look cool in a 3 series...

Does anybody know anything about the horror stories I hear with regards to Boxsters and 911s having bearings going to pot without warning?

kambites

70,629 posts

243 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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I believe most of TVR's reputation for unreliability came from the speed-six engined cars. I think the V8s are usually OK (or at least as "OK" as any small volume car built on a shoestring budget).

BRMMA

1,898 posts

194 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Can't really say which is best, but I was faced with a similar decision a few years ago (though I do 12k a year) and chose a Boxster S. I love the car but it's not cheap to run, I've spent 5k in 2 years on it, but it's now better than when I bought it

My girlfriend bought a z4 3.0si which I drove a lot and that was a very good car, though not very exciting. Very cheap to run though

carts60

Original Poster:

8 posts

170 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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BRMMA said:
Can't really say which is best, but I was faced with a similar decision a few years ago (though I do 12k a year) and chose a Boxster S. I love the car but it's not cheap to run, I've spent 5k in 2 years on it, but it's now better than when I bought it

My girlfriend bought a z4 3.0si which I drove a lot and that was a very good car, though not very exciting. Very cheap to run though
Has that cost been incurred through general maintenance or otherwise?