So I'm looking for a load lugger...
Discussion
Sorry a bit of a What Car.
Budget is 15-17.5k say but if spot something just right then that can be stretched.
It also has to double as a family car for longer journeys in addition to the shopping trolley Fabia, and the playtime car, which can't carry anything much practical. So the car subject this OP will be family, holiday, trips to tip, carting stuff up and down here and there, student to from uni, pensioner shopping megathons, IKEA (again :sigh: ) and so on.
Mileage due to change of job mid 2012 will be significantly reduced, at the moment it's well over >20k but expect that to come down to probably less than 10k pa, in fact could make it easily below 10k without trying.
Years of running mid / large estates so quite comfortable with their load lugging ability and practicality for the intended use, and sadly all have been diesels for reason of BIK. Therefore with usage pattern due am tending away from diesel to petrol due to the DPF issues and the extra fuel/VED cost over the miles I'll be doing being completely inconsequential.
Needs to be reliable, bit of an obvious statement, but for reasons left unsaid years of fully expensed new motors have made me soft when it comes to grovelling on the drive keeping stuff motoring. Just a PITA at my age.
So by now you get the message I'm happy with a biggish estate. Petrol / auto preferred, decent wafter.
Right this is where The Powers That Be come into play.
Pressured for a 4x4 soft roader, :sigh: and various arguments presented some valid some not. The valid ones are:-
Carrying space combined with often greater weight limit. (Have to grudgingly agree with that on the MAM bit.)
Ease of older passenger entry / egress. (Yep OK agree with that)
4x4, (Don't particularly agree with that as whilst don't really need true off road 4x4 there are a few occasions when it could be handy. Nothing to do with winter as we are fully winter tyred all round. So limited benefit imo.)
Smaller footprint on road compared to a big estate. (yep that too, specially useful regarding space on the drive.)
So you can imagine where I've been pointed initially by TPTB, yes a RAV4, oh the shame of it.
Even more shame, have been looking at Honda CRV. (Aside: did anybody see Dara O'Briain at the Apollo? "Must have forgotten to turn on the Bluetooth in my cock" Know how he feels looking at CRVs ffs.)
OK I'm being prejudiced, moving on..
Quite impressed by the Yeti, especially the 160PS 4x4, but that's only manual, and if I want auto it's either a diesel or the 1.2 2wd. So that eliminates Yeti.
What else? Don't say FFRR, I mentioned reliability.
And all along I keep looking at things like 5 series BMW tourings, definitely within reach and good specs too.
And then I think ah stuff the budget and the small road footprint and go for a 3.6 V6 4x4 Superb Estate...
Sick of looking at Autotrader....
Budget is 15-17.5k say but if spot something just right then that can be stretched.
It also has to double as a family car for longer journeys in addition to the shopping trolley Fabia, and the playtime car, which can't carry anything much practical. So the car subject this OP will be family, holiday, trips to tip, carting stuff up and down here and there, student to from uni, pensioner shopping megathons, IKEA (again :sigh: ) and so on.
Mileage due to change of job mid 2012 will be significantly reduced, at the moment it's well over >20k but expect that to come down to probably less than 10k pa, in fact could make it easily below 10k without trying.
Years of running mid / large estates so quite comfortable with their load lugging ability and practicality for the intended use, and sadly all have been diesels for reason of BIK. Therefore with usage pattern due am tending away from diesel to petrol due to the DPF issues and the extra fuel/VED cost over the miles I'll be doing being completely inconsequential.
Needs to be reliable, bit of an obvious statement, but for reasons left unsaid years of fully expensed new motors have made me soft when it comes to grovelling on the drive keeping stuff motoring. Just a PITA at my age.
So by now you get the message I'm happy with a biggish estate. Petrol / auto preferred, decent wafter.
Right this is where The Powers That Be come into play.
Pressured for a 4x4 soft roader, :sigh: and various arguments presented some valid some not. The valid ones are:-
Carrying space combined with often greater weight limit. (Have to grudgingly agree with that on the MAM bit.)
Ease of older passenger entry / egress. (Yep OK agree with that)
4x4, (Don't particularly agree with that as whilst don't really need true off road 4x4 there are a few occasions when it could be handy. Nothing to do with winter as we are fully winter tyred all round. So limited benefit imo.)
Smaller footprint on road compared to a big estate. (yep that too, specially useful regarding space on the drive.)
So you can imagine where I've been pointed initially by TPTB, yes a RAV4, oh the shame of it.
Even more shame, have been looking at Honda CRV. (Aside: did anybody see Dara O'Briain at the Apollo? "Must have forgotten to turn on the Bluetooth in my cock" Know how he feels looking at CRVs ffs.)
OK I'm being prejudiced, moving on..
Quite impressed by the Yeti, especially the 160PS 4x4, but that's only manual, and if I want auto it's either a diesel or the 1.2 2wd. So that eliminates Yeti.
What else? Don't say FFRR, I mentioned reliability.
And all along I keep looking at things like 5 series BMW tourings, definitely within reach and good specs too.
And then I think ah stuff the budget and the small road footprint and go for a 3.6 V6 4x4 Superb Estate...
Sick of looking at Autotrader....
How about... a 2.7 twin turbo Audi Allroad?
55 plate, 75k miles, 250bhp (so pretty brisk) and half your budget? Fills both the "4x4" and the "load-lugger" parts to equal extents.
-EDIT-
Or, for a little more, you could track down one of the 4.2L V8, 340bhp S4 powered ones.
55 plate, 75k miles, 250bhp (so pretty brisk) and half your budget? Fills both the "4x4" and the "load-lugger" parts to equal extents.
-EDIT-
Or, for a little more, you could track down one of the 4.2L V8, 340bhp S4 powered ones.
Go for the Superb!
I have just got a 1.6 TDI hatch in SE trim and so far I think it is great!
Sure, there are a few little niggles, and things that are not quite as good as my outgoing car (Honda Civic) but they are different cars completely, and as a full package, the superb is great.
Lewis
I have just got a 1.6 TDI hatch in SE trim and so far I think it is great!
Sure, there are a few little niggles, and things that are not quite as good as my outgoing car (Honda Civic) but they are different cars completely, and as a full package, the superb is great.
Lewis
Thanks to all for some interesting suggestions, keep them coming.
You can get the DSG on the 1.8 TSI however.Yes they do do a DSG on the 2.0 200 PS vRS estate, but it's turbo and not NA, agreed.
Been giving that some serious thought, the 18" wheels and their effect on the ride puts me off. But But But 18495 for this seems expensive, compared to just over 20 for a 3.6 4x4 Superb.
Likewise the Audi suggestions, as interesting as they are, every Audi I've ever driven the ride has been a recipe for back trouble. (slight exaggeration admittedly) However I'll have to visit those Audi options suggested.
Just to be clear as re-reading the OP again realise from some of the responses eg RS4 it might not be clear. The vehicle does not have to be a play car, more like a wafter.
Skodasupercar said:
a11y_m said:
2.0 petrol vRS Octavia Estate - is it available with DSG?
In the current range I am not sure they do an NA 2ltr.You can get the DSG on the 1.8 TSI however.
Been giving that some serious thought, the 18" wheels and their effect on the ride puts me off. But But But 18495 for this seems expensive, compared to just over 20 for a 3.6 4x4 Superb.
Likewise the Audi suggestions, as interesting as they are, every Audi I've ever driven the ride has been a recipe for back trouble. (slight exaggeration admittedly) However I'll have to visit those Audi options suggested.
Just to be clear as re-reading the OP again realise from some of the responses eg RS4 it might not be clear. The vehicle does not have to be a play car, more like a wafter.
Edited by F i F on Friday 30th December 16:59
F i F said:
Likewise the Audi suggestions, as interesting as they are, every Audi I've ever driven the ride has been a recipe for back trouble. (slight exaggeration admittedly) However I'll have to visit those Audi options suggested.
The Allroad has height-adjustable air suspension and is extremely comfortable from my experience- in terms of ride quality, it's not dissimilar to a similar-era (04+) FFRR. Nothing like the newer A4 models, for example. Lots of scare stories with regards to the air suspension- used to be the smallest failure resulted in a huge bill- but third-party providers have started producing parts for them at a far lower cost than OEM.F i F said:
Yes they do do a DSG on the 2.0 200 PS vRS estate, but it's turbo and not NA, agreed.
Been giving that some serious thought, the 18" wheels and their effect on the ride puts me off. But But But 18495 for this seems expensive,
This one appears to be better value, zenons and full leather as well.Been giving that some serious thought, the 18" wheels and their effect on the ride puts me off. But But But 18495 for this seems expensive,
http://www.skoda.net.r66.co.uk/carview.aspx?id=602...
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