Enjoy this PH... BMW Driver to sue if forced to drive at 20.
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http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/local/i_ll_...

The comments are equally as good. The Blackpool Gazette is basically the local Daily Fail of the Northwest.

The comments are equally as good. The Blackpool Gazette is basically the local Daily Fail of the Northwest.
Idiot, and the wrong way to go about it, but she is sort of right.
Speed bumps for instance are absolutly terrible for the environment, the car and the driver. It's not the same as 20mph, but it's another case where the government is trying to push 2 opposing agendas on us, both with an aim of restricting our lives.
Speed bumps for instance are absolutly terrible for the environment, the car and the driver. It's not the same as 20mph, but it's another case where the government is trying to push 2 opposing agendas on us, both with an aim of restricting our lives.
maniac0796 said:
Idiot, and the wrong way to go about it, but she is sort of right.
Speed bumps for instance are absolutly terrible for the environment, the car and the driver. It's not the same as 20mph, but it's another case where the government is trying to push 2 opposing agendas on us, both with an aim of restricting our lives.
There's very little difference in fuel economy between 20mph and 30mph in the cars that I've owned, and I suspect BMW wont be entirely happy with her saying that they've designed a car that will break if driven in third gear for prolonged periods.Speed bumps for instance are absolutly terrible for the environment, the car and the driver. It's not the same as 20mph, but it's another case where the government is trying to push 2 opposing agendas on us, both with an aim of restricting our lives.
She's got a point hasn't she?
The reply from the council is that driving at 20mph encourages a smoother driving style. How exactly? Most cars will be in 2nd gear at relatively high revs (creating noise & emissions), or 3rd barely ticking over (no flexibility, lots of gear changing). They go on to say that it won't affect many as "average speeds are relatively low" - so why bother then?
Typical council effort to appease idiots by wasting money...
The reply from the council is that driving at 20mph encourages a smoother driving style. How exactly? Most cars will be in 2nd gear at relatively high revs (creating noise & emissions), or 3rd barely ticking over (no flexibility, lots of gear changing). They go on to say that it won't affect many as "average speeds are relatively low" - so why bother then?
Typical council effort to appease idiots by wasting money...
poing said:
kambites said:
What cars aren't completely comfortable at 20 in third?
The other halves 1.2 Twingo, exactly the type of car that should be used for town driving. It won't pull 30 in 5th either which is roughly the same revs.kambites said:
poing said:
kambites said:
What cars aren't completely comfortable at 20 in third?
The other halves 1.2 Twingo, exactly the type of car that should be used for town driving. It won't pull 30 in 5th either which is roughly the same revs.kambites said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
kambites said:
What cars aren't completely comfortable at 20 in third?
My Saab 9000 2.3T for a start.TBH I do most of my 30-zone driving in 2nd or sometimes 3rd (complicated by the worn synchro on 2nd meaning I have to double-declutch from 3rd to 2nd).
The other cars I drive I am in 3rd in 30 limits. They'll do it in 4th, but the car wants to go faster IYSWIM, and I don't like the lack of flexibility of very low revs.
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