RE: Wipeout hover cars become a reality. Maybe
RE: Wipeout hover cars become a reality. Maybe
Thursday 5th January 2012

Wipeout hover cars become a reality. Maybe

But is it real cutting-edge science or viral marketing?



A group of Japanese scientists appear to have created a real-life Wipeout track (albeit Scalextric-sized), using cutting-edge technology to take slot-car racing very much into the 21st century.

Using a liquid nitrogen-cooled superconductor and a row of magnets, the miniature ships 'hover' above the track thanks to the suitably sci fi-sounding state of 'quantum trapping'. It even 'hovers' upside down, allowing such appealing tricks as loop-the-loops and vertical walls of death and, with a gentle shove, permits virtually frictionless movement around the magnetic track. Brilliant.

'JIST's' Wipeout track...
'JIST's' Wipeout track...
The idea behind quantum levitation was demonstrated last year by Tel-Aviv University Superconductor Group, who showed off its effects during the Association of Science's annual conference in Maryland last year.

And the team behind the Wipeout project seem to have high hopes for the new technology, saying in this video that "with this new technology, we hope to revolutionize the world of motor transport; Maybe in a near future we could assist to a real Wipeout race."

But is it real?
Presumably because Britain's newspaper newsrooms are a natural breeding ground for joyless cynicism, the Daily Mail is keen to pour cold water on the idea of the Wipeout-in-miniature track. It suggests that although quantum levitation is a real phenomenon, the YouTube video might just be clever CGI trick that's part of a viral marketing campaign.

...and Tel-Aviv's version
...and Tel-Aviv's version
It even quotes Gizmodo.co.uk's Sam Biddle as saying: "We can't find any 'JAPAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.' Its YouTube channel only has one video upload - and a Gmail address. Plus, the fact that this is tied to a videogame screams viral ad."

All of which might well be true. But there is a Japan Advanced Institute of Science and Technology, JAIST, which is hardly a million miles away from JIST, especially for a country that doesn't use the Roman alphabet as its principal means of communication.

And anyway, what would you rather were true? Real-life Wipeout using quantum levitation, or just another new computer game? Come on Daily Mail, Gizmodo - let a bit of credulous wonder into your life...

Although we must admit that with proper Wipeout logos in the video, and Wipeout 2048 due out soon for the new PlayStation Vita, you've got to say it's looking good for incredulity and cynicism...

 

The JIST might not exist, but the JAIST does. It looks like this
The JIST might not exist, but the JAIST does. It looks like this

 

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Milks

Original Poster:

186 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Ah 'quantum'

Efbe

9,251 posts

183 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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does this bring me any closer to my goal of hoverboarding to work marty fcfly style?

soad

34,071 posts

193 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Looks like some marketing for the Wipeout 2048 (that's due next month?) game.

Riggers

1,859 posts

195 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Efbe said:
does this bring me any closer to my goal of hoverboarding to work marty fcfly style?
In theory. Provided you can keep your superconducting hoverboard at -185C, and your route to work is laid out by a path of magnets.

Make sure you wear warm boots, I'd say...

Stew2000

2,776 posts

195 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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I want to see it in F1.

Efbe

9,251 posts

183 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Riggers said:
Efbe said:
does this bring me any closer to my goal of hoverboarding to work marty fcfly style?
In theory. Provided you can keep your superconducting hoverboard at -185C, and your route to work is laid out by a path of magnets.

Make sure you wear warm boots, I'd say...
the magnets are on the tracks? oh didn't realise that, I assumed on the bottom of the cars.

well that's rubbish then, you could just used a row of magnets over metal like the japanese trains.

edit: to be honest I have had dafter ideas for getting into work. my latest idea has been to involve a speedboat for part of it. I can see the mrs scuppering this grand plan.

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Efbe said:
well that's rubbish then, you could just used a row of magnets over metal like the japanese trains.
Entirely different. If you were to push a maglev train with enough force it would wobble and return to the centre-line. With these 'quantum locked' magnets it would move to one side and stay there.

jon-

16,534 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Sorry, but that's got viral written all over it.

glazbagun

14,968 posts

214 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Stew2000 said:
I want to see it in F1.
This. What's the longest superconductor track ever made, out of curiosity? You can't tell me scientists have made a super lethal flu and we've laws to stop human cloning by mad scientists but noone's ever tried to make a real life hovercar!

RS133

2,201 posts

190 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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It's viral and fairly clever one at that.

Someone knows that internet beards are going to pick up on quantum locking being a real possibility, so in essence the videos realism IS plausible. The realistic aspect of the video is there to suck people to discuss it, as well as to yield internet exposure, which it appears they've achieved.

It's far too much of a co-incidence that the new wipeout is out next month and that someone has gone to all this trouble to make the course/cars look like that.


ecs0set

2,489 posts

301 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Quantum Levitation? Quantum Trapping. Sounds too complicated, can someone please give me the JIST of this?


Oddball RS

1,757 posts

235 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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ecs0set said:
Quantum Levitation? Quantum Trapping. Sounds too complicated, can someone please give me the JIST of this?
Magnets, cold, hover........

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

207 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Disappointingly fake. Obvious advert for new computer game frown

b14

1,215 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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The nitrogen cooling to bring the superconductor down close to absolute zero would be a lot more serious than the set up shown in this video.

Good try though

JTRacelogic

101 posts

272 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Ha ha, love the idea, but unfortunately it is almost certainly a fake. They show the track as the superconducting element, but then cool the car down with 'liquid nitrogen'. Doh! If that was the case they would need to cool the entire track down with liquid nitrogen, and not the car.

Also, once it is trapped in the magnetic field by what appears to be fixed magnets, it cannot move freely as they apparently show.

Also, they look suspiciously like CO2 canisters rather than liquid Nitrogen canisters and the trailing 'vapour' is quite clearly added in post production.

Good video though!

filski666

3,848 posts

209 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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advert for new computer game possibly?

Riggers

1,859 posts

195 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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JTRacelogic said:
Ha ha, love the idea, but unfortunately it is almost certainly a fake. They show the track as the superconducting element, but then cool the car down with 'liquid nitrogen'. Doh! If that was the case they would need to cool the entire track down with liquid nitrogen, and not the car.

Also, once it is trapped in the magnetic field by what appears to be fixed magnets, it cannot move freely as they apparently show.

Also, they look suspiciously like CO2 canisters rather than liquid Nitrogen canisters and the trailing 'vapour' is quite clearly added in post production.

Good video though!
Good spot. Thing that swings it, doesn't it...

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

209 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Speaking as a scientist wink severe lack of loads of scientific looking stuff and presence of completely over the top PPE (massive rubber gloves? what are they for?) makes me believe the wipeout video is not genuine. it looks too fancy and not cobbled together enough to be a real science experiment as well.

Wammer

394 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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I agree that the first video could be fake but the second video there is too much information in it and a lot of science behind it to be fake. Fascinating stuff.

ArosaMike

4,555 posts

228 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Anyone else noticed that their 'controller' appears to be a 3D Connexion Space Navigator:



...commonly found in 3D special effect studios and engineering companies for the manipulation of 3D computer models!

http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/spacepilot-pro...