Have supercar prices gone up for no reason?
Have supercar prices gone up for no reason?
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matrignano

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234 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Checking the classifieds for a potential upgrade to my Aston V8V.
Looking at Alfa 8Cs, Audi R8s, Ferrario F430s, Lambo Gallardos, Maser Granturismos and Porsche 997 GT3s.
Seems that prices have gone up massively since the lows of 2008/09, and particularly in the last 6 months?

I swear Alfa 8Cs were nearer 100k, now can't find one for less than £125k.
Gallardos could be had for as low as £40k in 2009, now even a ropey 2004 model commands £50k+.

Should we take this is as a sign that the crisis is over? Or are dealers just trying to artificially inflate prices in order to pocket larger commissions?

Fittster

20,120 posts

237 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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No possibility that the value of the £ has declined?

SEE YA

3,522 posts

269 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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There is still many sports cars, not being sold trader/ and private.

Some cars have gone up in value, however you still have to find a buyer.


What you think its worth, and what you get may not be the same.

People are thinking twice, about buying a sports car.
In this current climate, a sports car may not be near the top of the list of things to do.



matrignano

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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SEE YA said:
There is still many sports cars, not being sold trader/ and private.

Some cars have gone up in value, however you still have to find a buyer.


What you think its worth, and what you get may not be the same.

People are thinking twice, about buying a sports car.
In this current climate, a sports car may not be near the top of the list of things to do.
That's my view as well, however prices seem to keep going up!

matrignano

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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Fittster said:
No possibility that the value of the £ has declined?
Sterling has been appreciating against the Euro, so doubt it's the case.
I've been looking at RHD cars sold in the UK anyway, unlikely to attract any foreign investors. So currency effects should be irrelevant.

kambites

70,814 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Prices never change for no reason. Not sure why they'd be going up now in particular though. I don't think car prices are the best indication of the state of the economy.

daveco

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231 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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matrignano said:
Fittster said:
No possibility that the value of the £ has declined?
Sterling has been appreciating against the Euro, so doubt it's the case.
I've been looking at RHD cars sold in the UK anyway, unlikely to attract any foreign investors. So currency effects should be irrelevant.
I've noticed it too. Porsche 911 prices seem to be artificially inflated in some dealers. They've literally stuck 5k onto the asking price since early December in one garage. I'm half tempted to ring them...

Carfiend

3,186 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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People have other things in the news to worry about than bankers bonuses so they have gone back up to pre 2008 levels so they can afford nice cars again pushing demand up.

the trap is laid

Jonboy_t

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207 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Fewer and fewer people selling as the price was decreasing, therefore demand outweighing supply, pushing the values up?

Or just speculators who are the only people selling at the moment.

Matt UK

18,080 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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I heard that the UK had become a global focal point for buying and exporting sports cars due to how cheap the cars were (relatively speaking).

Hence a lot have left the country and there are fewer examples available - hence supply / demand / prices.

Can't say it's true, just what I heard.

Dracoro

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269 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Well, the ASKING prices have gone up biggrin

I suspect there a number of factors in play and being rare/unusual/expensive cars, I don't they abide by the normal car valuation "rules".

If you're ONLY pitching to the rich, then you can price upwards (someone loaded may not worry too much about paying £120k or £140k) and make what money you can.

If you're pitching to those who can "only just" afford them (or can't afford them!) then you price down to get their business.

There "could" also be an element of "falsely" raising prices so prospective buyers think "buy now before they get even more expensive, I'll make money if they keep going up!" biggrin

matc

4,735 posts

231 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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The cars dropped to a artificially low price in 08/09 and all that's happened is over the last couple of years they've gone back to the price that they're worth, rather than what was a market full of people panic selling.

I think they'll take another small hit this year, but nowhere near what they were in early 09....I took a V8Vantage in p/x back then, that even 3 years on is still worth more than we gave for it!

matrignano

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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matc said:
The cars dropped to a artificially low price in 08/09 and all that's happened is over the last couple of years they've gone back to the price that they're worth, rather than what was a market full of people panic selling.

I think they'll take another small hit this year, but nowhere near what they were in early 09....I took a V8Vantage in p/x back then, that even 3 years on is still worth more than we gave for it!
Are you in the motor trade by any chance...?
Cause your view is significantly different from everyone else's :P

SWoll

21,842 posts

282 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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matrignano said:
matc said:
The cars dropped to a artificially low price in 08/09 and all that's happened is over the last couple of years they've gone back to the price that they're worth, rather than what was a market full of people panic selling.

I think they'll take another small hit this year, but nowhere near what they were in early 09....I took a V8Vantage in p/x back then, that even 3 years on is still worth more than we gave for it!
Are you in the motor trade by any chance...?
Cause your view is significantly different from everyone else's :P
What do you think...

matc

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231 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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matrignano said:
matc said:
The cars dropped to a artificially low price in 08/09 and all that's happened is over the last couple of years they've gone back to the price that they're worth, rather than what was a market full of people panic selling.

I think they'll take another small hit this year, but nowhere near what they were in early 09....I took a V8Vantage in p/x back then, that even 3 years on is still worth more than we gave for it!
Are you in the motor trade by any chance...?
Cause your view is significantly different from everyone else's :P
Good guess!! I did however take advantage of the buy in 08/09 and sell a bit later on with both my Cayman and my 360, they cost me nothing to run and made me a few £ when I sold them.

However as I said I don't see this happening again, the bubble burst massively before and current owners of these cars will be nowhere near as desperate to let them go, hence the higher prices.

Good news is though, your V8V must have been reasonably cheap to own for the past 3 years?

matrignano

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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matc said:
Good news is though, your V8V must have been reasonably cheap to own for the past 3 years?
I bought it less than a year ago!
But at a good price I think...

matrignano

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234 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Cheapest Gallardo in the classifieds is £63k.
That's £10k more than the chapest one I could find when I started this thread one month ago!

How is it possible? Last time I checked, the Eurozone crisis was still pretty much unresolved...

Lordglenmorangie

3,071 posts

229 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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It's all in the mind, when your buying every thing has gone up. When you are selling prices have dropped through the floor smile