Re-commissioning a car that's been laid up for a while
Re-commissioning a car that's been laid up for a while
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HereBeMonsters

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14,180 posts

202 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Any tips on what to check or change on a car that’s been laid up for about 15 months? Before it was taken off the road it had a full service with all belts, oil and filter, injectors and K&N filter cleaned, new dizzy, leads etc.



Oil still looks golden on the dipstick. Should be ok? I’ve heard people talking about “turning the engine by hand” to distribute the oil around, but no idea how I would do that.



Would the fuel be ok? It had about 20 litres of V-Power in it. Should I top that up with some fresh fuel, or even drain that first?



Usually I’d just go for it and give it an Italian tune-up, but it’s my favourite car, and having had a recently rebuilt engine, I don’t want to ruin it.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

224 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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I had one off the road for double that time. Started it up with a new battery and away it went. It needed a new turbo, fuel pump and a throttle pot but it kind of needed them before it went into storage anyway

Just start it

E30M3SE

8,483 posts

216 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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To turn the engine by hand put the correct sized socket on the crank pull and turn clockwise with a ratchet, remove the spark plugs first.

Then turn it over on the starter without the plugs or fuel.

Top off with fresh fuel and take for a gentle run until all fluids up to temp, switch off allow to cool give it a little once over check fluids, if all OK, carry on as you wish.

Don't forget to drop your tyre pressures if you over inflated them.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

266 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Just get in and start it.

Fiddling with the fuel is pointless because the fuel lines are full of old fuel whatever you put in the tank now.

I'd be cautious moving off for the first time just in case any brake parts are binding.

V8LM

5,471 posts

229 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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If it's a relatively new car then it should have a de-flood mode where you crank the engine with the throttle fully depressed. If it has such then the plugs won't fire - use this until the oil pressure light goes out. If, however, it doesn't have this feature then the engine will fire and, with your foot hard down on the throttle, the valves and pistons will make their way into the garage roof-space.

Do you feel lucky?

HereBeMonsters

Original Poster:

14,180 posts

202 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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V8LM said:
If it's a relatively new car then it should have a de-flood mode where you crank the engine with the throttle fully depressed. If it has such then the plugs won't fire - use this until the oil pressure light goes out. If, however, it doesn't have this feature then the engine will fire and, with your foot hard down on the throttle, the valves and pistons will make their way into the garage roof-space.

Do you feel lucky?
It's 24 years old.

V8LM

5,471 posts

229 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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ECU, or not? The Ford EEC IV and later does this.

HereBeMonsters

Original Poster:

14,180 posts

202 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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V8LM said:
ECU, or not? The Ford EEC IV and later does this.
Yes, ECU. Also dizzy and points.

Bosch K-Jetronic.

Can you guess what it is yet?

C8PPO

20,347 posts

223 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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I lay up one of my cars over winter every year and in the spring I just do a visual check, charge the battery, and then remove the plugs and spin it up until the oil pressure comes up - saves running it cold with no oil circulated. It's always fine.

A9XXC

621 posts

169 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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944?

I'd take the plugs out, and flick it over a few times on the starter, just a few rotations leave it for a few seconds and repeat, then as said move of and drive gently for a few miles and check for sticky brakes (how warm are the wheels?) and oil /water levels /temps.

Then enjoy!

SWH

1,261 posts

222 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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The 205 GTI in your profile I assume smile

You could get all worrisome and pull a high pressure fuel line off, ignition on and then let some fresh petrol flush through... messy and could be a bugger getting the pipe back on leak free. Turning it over by hand is again a possibility, hardly easy access on the 1.9 lump though....

As others have said, just start it smile

You'll soon know if it works or not. Oil pressure light will stay on for a fraction longer, you may even hear the unwelcome mechanical grindings for 1/10th sec.... if it's something far more exotic, a different approach maybe required of course, but for a tough old 205, just get in and fire it up.

Binding brakes, stuck clutch, fluid leaks etc are all still possible of course, I'd worry about them more.

Our GTV spent a year outside..... shock, horror, it just cranked over twice then started, go for it. (Battery needed a charge, and the alarm system had a fit once it was running, but that soon calmed down!).

Edited for iPad autocorrect shenanigans.

Edited by SWH on Friday 6th January 19:16

DatsunDave

73 posts

168 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Given the time of year, in case you have not, I would give the battery a charge overnight. If car is in a cold garage maybe whip it out and bring it indoors to check the levels (if needed) and charge it once it has had a few hours to warm up.

When using a vehicle I have not used a while, mainly happens with my bikes, I generally bring them into my garage that is on the end of the house, and let them have a nice warm night or two.

HereBeMonsters

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14,180 posts

202 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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DatsunDave said:
Given the time of year, in case you have not, I would give the battery a charge overnight. If car is in a cold garage maybe whip it out and bring it indoors to check the levels (if needed) and charge it once it has had a few hours to warm up.

When using a vehicle I have not used a while, mainly happens with my bikes, I generally bring them into my garage that is on the end of the house, and let them have a nice warm night or two.
You sir, may have just saved me £50.

Battery wasn't charging, taking about 11v until it stopped. On your advice I took it out this afternoon and let it warm up by a radiator. Slopped the acid in it about while I was doing it, and it's now charged to 12v and still going.

Really glad as it's a proper Peugeot battery, and cost me a pretty penny!

StevieS

197 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Rather than take the spark plugs out, could you not just remove the spark plug leads?

Oilchange

9,428 posts

280 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Total rebuild of engine, gearbox, suspension and brakes. Nothing else for it as it'll explode instantly on startup
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nuts

MeerGruen

49 posts

167 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Can you not just check oil etc.. Start, Leave it tick over... Check Tyres and lights, Take it for a drive and see how it's driving?


Any problems would present themselves then smile




I'v seen cars standing for a few years, with fresh petrol and a battery just start and run perfect.

38911

764 posts

171 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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E30M3SE said:
Then turn it over on the starter without the plugs
You should *never* do this in any car with a catalytic converter unless you want to destroy it by chucking unburnt fuel down the exhaust! Ok the OPs car is probably too old to have a cat.... But you didn't know that ;-)

maniac0796

1,292 posts

186 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Fire it up.

If you're worried about oil distribution, it'll do no more harm than if you'd just done and oil and filter change on it.

38911

764 posts

171 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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maniac0796 said:
Fire it up.

If you're worried about oil distribution, it'll do no more harm than if you'd just done and oil and filter change on it.
This.

It's not highly strung v12 exotica we're talking about....

E30M3SE

8,483 posts

216 months

Sunday 8th January 2012
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38911 said:
E30M3SE said:
Then turn it over on the starter without the plugs
You should *never* do this in any car with a catalytic converter unless you want to destroy it by chucking unburnt fuel down the exhaust! Ok the OPs car is probably too old to have a cat.... But you didn't know that ;-)
If you're going to quote me then please quote me correctly, as what I actually said was

E30M3SE said:
Then turn it over on the starter without the plugs or fuel.
Now if you haven't got fuel going into the engine how are you going to ruin a Cat, if fitted, with unburnt fuel?????????

ETA, without plugs fitted any fuel that does enter the engine will exit via the hole normally occupied by the spark plug on the compression stroke of the engine, will it not?


Edited by E30M3SE on Sunday 8th January 15:35