Car payments = what % of income
Car payments = what % of income
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BlackPrince

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1,271 posts

186 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Whats the highest % of your monthly income that a car payment has ever consumed? And what do you think is the highest but still somewhat rational % to spend on a car each month?

I know this is PH, where everyone is a powerfully-built company director who always pays cash for his cars (or is it always finances? I forget the ideology of the moment), but most of us 'normal' people have to finance if we want a new car.

A mate of mine reckons that one should spend no more than 25%

Edited by BlackPrince on Saturday 7th January 04:57

GPS M-Jet

230 posts

201 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Mine is 9% of my monthly wage which I don't think is too bad.

davepoth

29,395 posts

216 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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200%, but then I did buy the car outright.

blearyeyedboy

6,675 posts

196 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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5% was the most I ever did, now 0%. But then that was to bridge a gap when it genuinely was cost effective to change and not wait- I think finance has a place, but I prefer to keep it to a minimum unless the figures stack massively in my favour.

Flibble

6,524 posts

198 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Take home or gross?

I'd want to keep it below 25% either way though.

A better bet would be to calculate disposable income (i.e. take home less essentials, like a roof over your head) and say no more than a half to a quarter.

Baryonyx

18,151 posts

176 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Not a great deal, really. Just fuel and maintainence costs, I certainly don't have anything on finance. ANd why would I, when you can get amazing cars for next to nothing?

HBFS

803 posts

208 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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20% of net income excluding commission (Which is quite low for me at the moment.)
I wish I could do it cheaper but I do around 40k miles PA and have to have something less than 5 years old.
But the net income I receive does include £4200 (Gross) car allowance!

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

173 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Mines about 10% of pre-tax 4 weekly income. I wouldn't go above this with a finance deal, much more and I clearly can't afford that car.

Dave Hedgehog

15,313 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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20% of net income

Torquey

1,933 posts

245 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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13% when living at home with parents.
4% when owning a house.

excluding insurance, tax etc...

TBH I wouldn't be comfortable lending more than that.

Jasandjules

71,322 posts

246 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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I've gone to about 20% before now, then add on insurance which took it to 25%. But it was worth it.

tertius

6,914 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Baryonyx said:
Not a great deal, really. Just fuel and maintainence costs, I certainly don't have anything on finance. ANd why would I, when you can get amazing cars for next to nothing?
^this

forzaminardi

2,298 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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As soon as I had a decent job I bought a (then) (comparatively) ridiculously expensive car. Repayments must have been about 25% of my monthly take-home. Thankfully I've had a few pay-rises since then...

Pip1968

1,369 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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I think about 25% seems sensible but is obviously dependent on your other outgoings and how secure your job is. Another good point already made is to be in a position to able to sell the car and cover all if not most of what you have borrowed. You also need to take into account repairs and maintenance/insurance.

I am now very lucky and cars are now all paid for but in my poorer days wmy borrowing was at the 25% level.

Pip

AlpineWhite

2,162 posts

212 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Pip1968 said:
Another good point already made is to be in a position to able to sell the car and cover all if not most of what you have borrowed.
This was key for me. Also, as raised in another post above, it needs to be cheaper (or better value) to take the finance than to go without.

For example, with my Fabia, I borrowed ~60% of the total purchase price. This meant that if needed, I could service the entire debt by selling the car. Also, the cost of the loan was cheaper than putting my old car through another MOT, even considering the likely extra value it would hold with a 12 month ticket. Not to mention the lower fuel cost.


Zoobeef

6,004 posts

175 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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mine was about 20% currently 0% as paid for the new one with cash. Not a high earner just a good saver

kambites

69,919 posts

238 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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I've never borrowed money to buy a car, but if I did I suppose I'd be unhappy going over about 10-15%, depending on the rate of depreciation of the car.

m444ttb

3,169 posts

246 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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I think very briefly I had two loans and a low income so possibly as much as 40%! That wavirtually with my parents virtually rent free though.

As of now, and for the next year until it has gone, about 10%. No plans for getting any further car financing once it has gone as the extra money will help offset my wife giving up work when we have kids!

T16OLE

2,960 posts

208 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Torquey said:
13% when living at home with parents.
4% when owning a house.

excluding insurance, tax etc...

TBH I wouldn't be comfortable lending more than that.
How does that work then?

DavidHM

3,940 posts

217 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Currently about 14% although it was nearer 20% when taken out.

To be honest I think that's too high but I'd had one used car eat a year's worth of payments in non-warranty repairs, and another runaround that lasted me 10 months before dying so I wasn't in the mood for buying anything that wasn't properly warranted.

Aim is to buy the next car with a three-year personal loan next year (rather than PCP) and keep below 10% (tending towards zero) over the next five years.

Of course the other question is - for how long? My mother probably puts 10% of her income into a car purchase when she has the finance agreement, but the car is paid off for as long as she has the loan before she sells it.