Sickening feeling attempted theft of my pride and joy
Sickening feeling attempted theft of my pride and joy
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tranter5

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352 posts

184 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Woke up this morning to my mum finding that someone had broke into the house by forcing the kitchen window open in the night. Worst feeling ever running to the front of the house to check my cars were still there! thank god they were! They had cut the front security lights that shine on the cars at the front. Police have been and said they would have been after the M5 most likely but the RS6 would have been a candidate too. Just feel sick thinking about it frown Fingerprint team are coming over later hope can get something from it. Looks like the 16 year old Dog scared them off. Keys were in a safe. why is there so much scum in this country! Not put me in the good books with Parents as its the reason they didnt want me having nice cars parked at home... Looking at getting CCTV and a new house alarm system fitted... I always worry that if the cars were stolen by force with the keys, for example if you were held by knifepoint for the keys would your insurance pay out??? Rant over

badlands1

845 posts

173 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Yup, these people should be killed on the spot.
I have 4 cameras on the front of the house recording 24/7 for this reason.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

198 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Very unfortunate frown

Yes Insurance covers you if you are forced to hand over the keys, it's when you are conned that there is usually an exclusion.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

254 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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I wouldn't keep the keys in the safe, myself. I'd rather someone took the cars than my life. When you hear tales of people being murdered in chip shops about arguments over garlic bread, I fear a determined thief wouldn't hesitate over an M5 or RS6.

falkster

4,258 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Bloody hell!!!

I'm of the thought process that if they want the cars they can have them - I'd be more worried about something happening to my wife or dogs if they forced their way in. The dogs are mental with strangers but a knife is a knife!!

(the M3 and 968 are in secure storage)

LocoCoco

1,432 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Buy your dog some nice treats. With a bit of luck they'll never come back now you're looking out for them.

kobayashi

32 posts

219 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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I've had three bikes stolen, once from the garage and twice from the road. The one from the garage was the most upsetting, I came downstairs to find the doors wedged open and my bike gone, they also stole all my power tools and my mountain bike. It's a real violation.

Unfortunately you are now going to be constantly worried about them coming back. It takes a long time to get over. Get a decent alarm and some cameras up, it will give you a little peace of mind if nothing else. Sorry this has happened to you, its a really stty thing.

Thieves are scum and should be kicked to death.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

254 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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A couple of these on the driveway would be a fair deterrent.


Ray Singh

3,065 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Sorry to hear of this. At least you and family are all well and thankfully they didn't get the cars.
This type of crime is becoming more and more common place. High powered cars especially BMW M and Audi S and RS are really sought after by criminals.

Try to take solace in the fact that you are all well. Cars can be replaced.

Futuramic

1,763 posts

225 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Rawwr said:
I wouldn't keep the keys in the safe, myself. I'd rather someone took the cars than my life. When you hear tales of people being murdered in chip shops about arguments over garlic bread, I fear a determined thief wouldn't hesitate over an M5 or RS6.
As cars become increasingly hard to steal most are resorting to finding the keys first. Even a transponder device is enough to put of most amateur joyriders; most who do that kind of thing are not mechanically minded enough. That's why ates have fallen off since the days of touching ignition wires together.

Back to burglaries: the press do their best to create an atmosphere of terror when and where required. Readers like it; they love to moan about the "broken society" and feral children on the streets. The fact is that crime has fallen. Thus a lot of stories are based upon embellishment and rumour.

None of this changes the sad business described above. However; those that are after valuable cars and who steal them by burgling the keys first are fairly well organised. They operate in gangs and have transport provided for them. The ring is extremely lucrative; but relies on them not getting caught. They will break in and have a quick peruse downstairs. Most householders leave their keys in the hall. They will take the keys and be out again in a few seconds. If the keys are not to hand they will leave.

The last sentence is the important one. They will go, ignore the residents, and try somewhere else. They will not disturb anyone. After all it's only a car worth a few grand on the black market. There are plenty of others. The reason they will not disturb the owners is that they do not want to get caught. Creeping round a house risks triggering alarms or waking someone up. If found by the police then the racket risks destruction and those higher up the chain will be mightily upset.

Thus they will not go and murder the car owners. This, as far as I know, has never happened. The likelihood is that it will not happen. Burlgars are people too; and the majority would not even consider homicide or an act of serious violence for the same resons as you or I. Theft is a wholly different game. If confronted, by anyone, the likelihood is that they will run away. These are not desperate crack addicts.

Hide the keys.

otolith

64,259 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Rawwr said:
A couple of these on the driveway would be a fair deterrent.


Risotto

3,931 posts

232 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Not nice having your house broken into but really, cars are just cars. If someone wants the keys that badly, let them take them - that's what insurance is for.

I certainly wouldn't risk injury defending easily replacable consumer goods.

Edited by Risotto on Thursday 12th January 10:10

boobles

15,251 posts

235 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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swerni said:
feck me you're doing well.

Wish I could have run those three as a student
You took the words right out of my mouth!

Corsair7

20,911 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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boobles said:
You took the words right out of my mouth!
Me too. Guess life is good.

versus

612 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Anyone having nice cars should have some gates/bollards installed. a friend's wife had three men in balacavas hijack her Audi S4 when she trying to put it in the garage, so they were just waiting for her all the time.

mig25_foxbat2003

5,426 posts

231 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Futuramic said:
Rawwr said:
I wouldn't keep the keys in the safe, myself. I'd rather someone took the cars than my life. When you hear tales of people being murdered in chip shops about arguments over garlic bread, I fear a determined thief wouldn't hesitate over an M5 or RS6.
As cars become increasingly hard to steal most are resorting to finding the keys first. Even a transponder device is enough to put of most amateur joyriders; most who do that kind of thing are not mechanically minded enough. That's why ates have fallen off since the days of touching ignition wires together.

Back to burglaries: the press do their best to create an atmosphere of terror when and where required. Readers like it; they love to moan about the "broken society" and feral children on the streets. The fact is that crime has fallen. Thus a lot of stories are based upon embellishment and rumour.

None of this changes the sad business described above. However; those that are after valuable cars and who steal them by burgling the keys first are fairly well organised. They operate in gangs and have transport provided for them. The ring is extremely lucrative; but relies on them not getting caught. They will break in and have a quick peruse downstairs. Most householders leave their keys in the hall. They will take the keys and be out again in a few seconds. If the keys are not to hand they will leave.

The last sentence is the important one. They will go, ignore the residents, and try somewhere else. They will not disturb anyone. After all it's only a car worth a few grand on the black market. There are plenty of others. The reason they will not disturb the owners is that they do not want to get caught. Creeping round a house risks triggering alarms or waking someone up. If found by the police then the racket risks destruction and those higher up the chain will be mightily upset.

Thus they will not go and murder the car owners. This, as far as I know, has never happened. The likelihood is that it will not happen. Burlgars are people too; and the majority would not even consider homicide or an act of serious violence for the same resons as you or I. Theft is a wholly different game. If confronted, by anyone, the likelihood is that they will run away. These are not desperate crack addicts.

Hide the keys.
I agree. If the keys are lying about, they can nab them and get out sharpish. If they're hidden somewhere secure, they're at least going to have to wake you up and ask nicely for them, and I bet 90% wouldn't bother.

OP, sorry this has happened, must be a horrible feeling.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Rawwr said:
A couple of these on the driveway would be a fair deterrent.

Why? Stealing with the keys presumably means they can unlock/remove that post im the same manner as the owner.

Carfiend

3,186 posts

229 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Crazy thing is if someone broke into my house, threatened me or my family with harm or worse and I did the human race a favour by shuffling them lose the mortal coil I would be in the wrong.

In before internet tough guy, you value properly over other peoples lives and it isn't their fault their parents brought them up wrong comments.

tranter5

Original Poster:

352 posts

184 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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some news already next door neighbour saw two men on his lawn looking at the Audi when the security lights were on at 1 am and they ran when he opened the window. so they have been twice he said thats when they came back when my Mum thought she heard a noise later on. That is when they have cut the security lights too. Moving the Audi now to a freinds place as they said its worrying they had the bottle to come back again so means they could be back another time.

Not all perks having a nice car frown really is a horrid feeling when I have worked my arse off to get these cars to have some low life try and take them away frown really is sickening!!!!

Risotto

3,931 posts

232 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Carfiend said:
Crazy thing is if someone broke into my house, threatened me or my family with harm or worse and I did the human race a favour by shuffling them lose the mortal coil I would be in the wrong.
Haven't serveral recent incidents demonstrated that this isn't actually true?