Towing an auto?
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Morningside

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24,143 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Yes, yes,yes I know! It will 'boil' the oil, screw up the torque converter, mash the gears.
And kill thousands of children and create the next nuclear winter.


BUT...
Towing an 02 plate Scenic auto. Possible at low speeds <25 and less than 10 miles.

Engine will NOT be running.

OK?

Big Rod

6,257 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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I think I'm right in saying it'd do less damage if the engine was running.

I'd say disconnect the propshaft but I guess being a scenic it won't have one being FWD.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

271 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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It may not be.

A lot of automatic transmissions use plated metal bearings versus needle rollers and if the transmission oil pump isn't sending lubricant their way then there is a good risk that they and in turn the transmission will be ruined even at the low speed and relatively short distances you are talking about.


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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An auto box needs constant pumped lubrication if the vehicle is moving, otherwise it will be destroyed. So never tow an auto any distance unless you know the answer to how the gearbox oil pump is driven,

  • If it's driven off the input shaft (i.e. the engine) you must not tow the car unless the engine is running.
  • If it's driven off the output shaft (i.e. by the wheels) it's OK to tow the car.

Morningside

Original Poster:

24,143 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
An auto box needs constant pumped lubrication if the vehicle is moving, otherwise it will be destroyed. So never tow an auto any distance unless you know the answer to how the gearbox oil pump is driven,

  • If it's driven off the input shaft (i.e. the engine) you must not tow the car unless the engine is running.
  • If it's driven off the output shaft (i.e. by the wheels) it's OK to tow the car.
They 'may' be able to start the car but the engine is very damaged and therefore running it could ruin it further.
What do you call any distance..1/2 mile? 200 yards or nothing. (suspect I know the answer).

McSam

6,753 posts

195 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Morningside said:
They 'may' be able to start the car but the engine is very damaged and therefore running it could ruin it further.
What do you call any distance..1/2 mile? 200 yards or nothing. (suspect I know the answer).
If you're looking at bearings being without lubrication, ANY distance. I wouldn't want to move it ten yards, anything at all is going to drastically shorten the life of the bearings and obviously the further you go, the greater the chance they'll be so heavily worn they won't function even with the engine running.

EDLT

15,421 posts

226 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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This sort of thing is usually in the owner's manual.

davepoth

29,395 posts

219 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Disconnect the driveshafts and it'll be fine. Shouldn't be a long job.

Morningside

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24,143 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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I think as suggested that the shafts need removing.

Its being 'rescued' from a so-called mechanic who I think has caused more damage than original problem.

Classic Grad 98

25,951 posts

180 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Morningside said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
An auto box needs constant pumped lubrication if the vehicle is moving, otherwise it will be destroyed. So never tow an auto any distance unless you know the answer to how the gearbox oil pump is driven,

  • If it's driven off the input shaft (i.e. the engine) you must not tow the car unless the engine is running.
  • If it's driven off the output shaft (i.e. by the wheels) it's OK to tow the car.
They 'may' be able to start the car but the engine is very damaged and therefore running it could ruin it further.
What do you call any distance..1/2 mile? 200 yards or nothing. (suspect I know the answer).
Presumably the engine is being replaced then? what have you to lose? If it runs, drive it...

wolf1

3,091 posts

270 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Morningside said:
Yes, yes,yes I know! It will 'boil' the oil, screw up the torque converter, mash the gears.
And kill thousands of children and create the next nuclear winter.


BUT...
Towing an 02 plate Scenic auto. Possible at low speeds <25 and less than 10 miles.

Engine will NOT be running.

OK?
Just checked my recovery data and it states that it can be towed but the restrictions are no more than 15 mph and no further than 30 miles.

Morningside

Original Poster:

24,143 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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wolf1 said:
Morningside said:
Yes, yes,yes I know! It will 'boil' the oil, screw up the torque converter, mash the gears.
And kill thousands of children and create the next nuclear winter.


BUT...
Towing an 02 plate Scenic auto. Possible at low speeds <25 and less than 10 miles.

Engine will NOT be running.

OK?
Just checked my recovery data and it states that it can be towed but the restrictions are no more than 15 mph and no further than 30 miles.
Thank you for that I will let her know.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Morningside said:
What do you call any distance..1/2 mile? 200 yards or nothing. (suspect I know the answer).
I would be surprised if a gentle half mile tow caused any difficulty. No promises.