VW or Audi diesel?
Discussion
OK, the time has come to get a diesel. I have gone from doing 5 miles a day to work to 40 miles a day, and the Golf I have now is guzzling the petrol!
So, I have seen a VW golf GT TDi 170 bhp, with 60k on the clock, leather, 17in alloys, full service history, 1 owner for £8900 but my partner has seen an Audi A3 sportback, 170 bhp, S Line Quattro, leather, full service history, 74k on the clock and 3 owners for £8500. I love Golfs, but the Audi does look awesome.
Which one? I know its all about how it drives etc, but which one would you prefer??
So, I have seen a VW golf GT TDi 170 bhp, with 60k on the clock, leather, 17in alloys, full service history, 1 owner for £8900 but my partner has seen an Audi A3 sportback, 170 bhp, S Line Quattro, leather, full service history, 74k on the clock and 3 owners for £8500. I love Golfs, but the Audi does look awesome.
Which one? I know its all about how it drives etc, but which one would you prefer??
Lippyx said:
OK, the time has come to get a diesel. I have gone from doing 5 miles a day to work to 40 miles a day, and the Golf I have now is guzzling the petrol!
So, I have seen a VW golf GT TDi 170 bhp, with 60k on the clock, leather, 17in alloys, full service history, 1 owner for £8900 but my partner has seen an Audi A3 sportback, 170 bhp, S Line Quattro, leather, full service history, 74k on the clock and 3 owners for £8500. I love Golfs, but the Audi does look awesome.
Which one? I know its all about how it drives etc, but which one would you prefer??
Keep the original Golf and spend the £9000 on 45000 miles of petrol?So, I have seen a VW golf GT TDi 170 bhp, with 60k on the clock, leather, 17in alloys, full service history, 1 owner for £8900 but my partner has seen an Audi A3 sportback, 170 bhp, S Line Quattro, leather, full service history, 74k on the clock and 3 owners for £8500. I love Golfs, but the Audi does look awesome.
Which one? I know its all about how it drives etc, but which one would you prefer??
sleep envy said:
Out of those two I'd say vw, the ride on that spec a3 is too harsh on the correct tyres (you can fit the bmw spec tyres to soften it a little - the audi ones are heavy load so have a stiffer sidewall)
Just a question. Is it sensible to advise someone to change tyres to a load rating that is not recommended by the manufacturer? I am sure insurers wouldn't be happy.blueg33 said:
Just a question. Is it sensible to advise someone to change tyres to a load rating that is not recommended by the manufacturer? I am sure insurers wouldn't be happy.
I've changed tyre sizes on a car that has been subsequently written off, the assessor didn't even bother checking them - went from 185/55/15 to 195/50/15sleep envy said:
I've changed tyre sizes on a car that has been subsequently written off, the assessor didn't even bother checking them - went from 185/55/15 to 195/50/15
Was that a tyre size that the manufacturer use on that car?When I had my crash in the G33 a couple of years ago the assessor checked the tyre size. They were not OEM (size and speed rating impossible to obtain), but I had advised insurers and all was well.
If you don't advise insurers its a gamble
blueg33 said:
Was that a tyre size that the manufacturer use on that car?
When I had my crash in the G33 a couple of years ago the assessor checked the tyre size. They were not OEM (size and speed rating impossible to obtain), but I had advised insurers and all was well.
If you don't advise insurers its a gamble
nope - the manufacture's size was just 185/55When I had my crash in the G33 a couple of years ago the assessor checked the tyre size. They were not OEM (size and speed rating impossible to obtain), but I had advised insurers and all was well.
If you don't advise insurers its a gamble
we aren't talking about a tyre size change, just a load change from 94 to 91 which is hardly a massive change
IMO load index is at least as important as size, otherwise why have it?
Anyway what you do is up to you, I just don't think its wise advice. So we will have to agree to differ, but I give you this below.
Can't see the point in taking risks with the only part of the car that keeps you in touch with the road!
Sorry OP to veer off topic
Anyway what you do is up to you, I just don't think its wise advice. So we will have to agree to differ, but I give you this below.
Road Vehicle Construction and Use Regulations said:
Regulation 25
Unsuitability
All tyres must have a service description (i.e. load and speed index)
If the vehicle was to operate outside the service description indicated on the sidewall e.g. at a higher speed or overloaded then the tyres would be deemed to be unsuitable for the use, and a prosecution would follow.
Unsuitability
All tyres must have a service description (i.e. load and speed index)
If the vehicle was to operate outside the service description indicated on the sidewall e.g. at a higher speed or overloaded then the tyres would be deemed to be unsuitable for the use, and a prosecution would follow.
Tyre Safe said:
Most car and van tyres used in the UK have both a load and speed rating after the tyre size, e.g. 195/65R15 is usually followed by 91V. This means the tyres can carry a load of 615 kgs upto a maximum speed of 149 mph. When replacing tyres it is important to ensure the new tyres, even if a different size, have the same or a higher load rating. It is normal for the combined load of the 4 tyres to exceed the maximum weight of the vehicle by about 20 to 25% to allow for uneven load distribution or excessive loads when cornering or braking. The table below shows the conversion from the LI number to the capacity in kilograms.
If the Audi is heavier than the BMW that would account for the higher load index.Can't see the point in taking risks with the only part of the car that keeps you in touch with the road!
Sorry OP to veer off topic
Edited by blueg33 on Friday 20th January 08:57
Edited by blueg33 on Friday 20th January 09:30
OP> looks like you are going to be falling asleep whilst going into work whichever you choose 
surely there are far cheaper options that will depreciate less and eturn the same mpg.
if economy is your main concern then you are spending too much for the distance you will be travelling into work.

surely there are far cheaper options that will depreciate less and eturn the same mpg.
if economy is your main concern then you are spending too much for the distance you will be travelling into work.
For me, the A3 any day.
The interior is vastly better. And the exterior better too.
IMO. I am aware that underneath they are the same car. But having an Audi and having test driven an equivalent Golf and A3 back to back - there is no way I would be in the Golf. This was further re-inforced by having to drive from Norwich to Glasgow in a Golf.
The interior is vastly better. And the exterior better too.
IMO. I am aware that underneath they are the same car. But having an Audi and having test driven an equivalent Golf and A3 back to back - there is no way I would be in the Golf. This was further re-inforced by having to drive from Norwich to Glasgow in a Golf.
sleep envy said:
Christ!
Read your quote - can carry a load of 615kg up to a speed of xxmph
Just don't eexceed the load rating, you won't die
I never said anyone would die. My point was, manufacturers don't suggest load ratings on a whim and insurers should be advised of a change in tyre spec from manufacturers recommendationsRead your quote - can carry a load of 615kg up to a speed of xxmph
Just don't eexceed the load rating, you won't die
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