Alternatives to paying £400 for a spare key?
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My Saab 9-5 key went through the washing machine - oops.
It will still start the (disarmed) car so the transponder is OK, but I can't unlock / lock the doors without the alarm going off.
I have another key, but ideally need a spare - just quoted £400, or about half of the car's value - not happening.
Presumably the fob sends out a radio wave signal to unlock the car? Is there a device that can learn this signal from my other key - like one of those programmable TV remotes?
I'd end up with a key to start the car and another device to unlock, but at least I'd have a back up.
(I have googled, but not sure what I'm looking for)
Ta for any pointers
It will still start the (disarmed) car so the transponder is OK, but I can't unlock / lock the doors without the alarm going off.
I have another key, but ideally need a spare - just quoted £400, or about half of the car's value - not happening.
Presumably the fob sends out a radio wave signal to unlock the car? Is there a device that can learn this signal from my other key - like one of those programmable TV remotes?
I'd end up with a key to start the car and another device to unlock, but at least I'd have a back up.
(I have googled, but not sure what I'm looking for)
Ta for any pointers
There's various advice that seems low impact.
One of them is simply leaving the key in the ignition for 10 seconds.
If the key is sending the correct code when being energised by the ignition it shouldn't require replacing, just rebonding with the car so the alarm doesn't sound.
The saabscene forums were useful when I had my 9000
One of them is simply leaving the key in the ignition for 10 seconds.
If the key is sending the correct code when being energised by the ignition it shouldn't require replacing, just rebonding with the car so the alarm doesn't sound.
The saabscene forums were useful when I had my 9000
There will most likely be two systems in place, one is the immobiliser transponder in the key, which is usually a sealed self powered chip (induction loop) and the other part is the radio control for central locking.
The chip still works, so it's the radio remote that needs sorting.
These are usually easier to resync, although Autodata still says it needs diagnostic equipment to do it.
You will probably get away with any remote. Once in a programming mode, the alarm will accept any fobs nearby that someone pressed a button on.
If you can get hold of a Tech2 lead, you might be able to do this yourself.
The chip still works, so it's the radio remote that needs sorting.
These are usually easier to resync, although Autodata still says it needs diagnostic equipment to do it.
You will probably get away with any remote. Once in a programming mode, the alarm will accept any fobs nearby that someone pressed a button on.
If you can get hold of a Tech2 lead, you might be able to do this yourself.
On one of my old cars (5 years old) it only came with one key. I found that some key cutting places do cut car keys with immobliers etc. I just wanted a blank key without buttons for the spare. Took in my old key, was plugged into a machine and £70 later I had a spare that would start and open the car.
Not many places do this as the equipment is expensive but have a good look around, mine was done in Stanmore at the BroadWalk shopping centre.
Not many places do this as the equipment is expensive but have a good look around, mine was done in Stanmore at the BroadWalk shopping centre.
trying this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270877224090?ru=http%3A%...
I'm using the spare key fob so no issue at the moment, but sods law says I'll lose / break it so I need a back up.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270877224090?ru=http%3A%...
I'm using the spare key fob so no issue at the moment, but sods law says I'll lose / break it so I need a back up.
That's only going to clone your spare, and then out of the two, only one would work.
Your fob will have rolling codes, that fob will listen and record the signal, but the next time it would just be able to open the doors once (by replaying a recorded valid code) and after that, you car will have moved onto a new one.
Your fob will have rolling codes, that fob will listen and record the signal, but the next time it would just be able to open the doors once (by replaying a recorded valid code) and after that, you car will have moved onto a new one.
TheEnd said:
That's only going to clone your spare, and then out of the two, only one would work.
Your fob will have rolling codes, that fob will listen and record the signal, but the next time it would just be able to open the doors once (by replaying a recorded valid code) and after that, you car will have moved onto a new one.
Thanks for that - It seemed too simple.Your fob will have rolling codes, that fob will listen and record the signal, but the next time it would just be able to open the doors once (by replaying a recorded valid code) and after that, you car will have moved onto a new one.
All this security is great on a £30k car but by the time it's nearly 15 yrs old it's a PITA.
I'll just have to be really careful with the spare.
Redler said:
On one of my old cars (5 years old) it only came with one key. I found that some key cutting places do cut car keys with immobliers etc. I just wanted a blank key without buttons for the spare. Took in my old key, was plugged into a machine and £70 later I had a spare that would start and open the car.
Not many places do this as the equipment is expensive but have a good look around, mine was done in Stanmore at the BroadWalk shopping centre.
5 years old, must be about time to scrap it Not many places do this as the equipment is expensive but have a good look around, mine was done in Stanmore at the BroadWalk shopping centre.
.BlueMR2 said:
Redler said:
On one of my old cars (5 years old) it only came with one key. I found that some key cutting places do cut car keys with immobliers etc. I just wanted a blank key without buttons for the spare. Took in my old key, was plugged into a machine and £70 later I had a spare that would start and open the car.
Not many places do this as the equipment is expensive but have a good look around, mine was done in Stanmore at the BroadWalk shopping centre.
5 years old, must be about time to scrap it Not many places do this as the equipment is expensive but have a good look around, mine was done in Stanmore at the BroadWalk shopping centre.
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