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"Thursday 12 January saw what is believed to be the first MG6 to hit the harsh world of the automotive auction hall... No bid was forthcoming, despite repeated requests. Eventually, it seemed the fire extinguisher bid £10,500. A pot plant then bid to £10,600, a poster advertising a Fried Breakfast threw in a bid of £10,700 and so forth until the No Smoking sign closed the sale with a provisional bid of £11,000."
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/2012/01/15/news-fi...
Can't even shift them at an auction, I don't have any fondness for the MG name at all but this story is a bit sad. If I was considering buying one then residual value would be a massive concern.
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/2012/01/15/news-fi...
Can't even shift them at an auction, I don't have any fondness for the MG name at all but this story is a bit sad. If I was considering buying one then residual value would be a massive concern.
I was checking the MG Rover forum when I found that article, they all seem to be happy with their MG6s but some of them are also calling them BMW beaters so I guess it's not exactly an unbiased review.
I feel bad for the dealers that have taken on the franchise, I can't really understand how it ever seemed like a good idea.
I feel bad for the dealers that have taken on the franchise, I can't really understand how it ever seemed like a good idea.
I paid £12k for a brand new Mondeo 2.0 Edge in 2009 from the local Ford dealer, unregistered and with 0 miles. The MG has 158hp but the Ford has 145 so it's not a huge gap. I'm not sure people trust the longevity of the MG brand in the UK after the collapse of various manufacturers over the years.
PumpkinSteve said:
I was checking the MG Rover forum when I found that article, they all seem to be happy with their MG6s but some of them are also calling them BMW beaters so I guess it's not exactly an unbiased review.
I would take anything written on one of those forums with a bucket of salt.We did a charity rally a few years back using a Rover 820. As a result, I joined a Rover forum to get an idea as to the niggles/weak spots etc to be expected. Some of the delusion shown there regarding Rovers was beyond belief akin to someone sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting la la la at the top of their voice.
g3org3y said:
I would take anything written on one of those forums with a bucket of salt.
We did a charity rally a few years back using a Rover 820. As a result, I joined a Rover forum to get an idea as to the niggles/weak spots etc to be expected. Some of the delusion shown there regarding Rovers was beyond belief akin to someone sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting la la la at the top of their voice.
IMO many owners clubs/forums are like that. People will not accept that any other brand of car can possibly be better than the members cars, even if it can be shown to the the case by every objective measure available. We did a charity rally a few years back using a Rover 820. As a result, I joined a Rover forum to get an idea as to the niggles/weak spots etc to be expected. Some of the delusion shown there regarding Rovers was beyond belief akin to someone sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting la la la at the top of their voice.
Can be very amusing when you get a 10 page argument going with one person trying to justify why their 1987 rustbucket is better than a modern car which just rolled off the production line.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011... - Diesel Mondeo £12k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011... - Petrol Mondeo £10.5k
Both at dealerships, where one would assume they have a margin in the cars. So an unloved and unlovable MG badged Chinese creation is never going to fly off the shelves.
The reality is that most people want this kind of thing on their driveway http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012... as they see it being much better than a Mondeo etc even when the lesser badge is attached to a better spec lower mileage car that may be more fit for purpose.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011... - Petrol Mondeo £10.5k
Both at dealerships, where one would assume they have a margin in the cars. So an unloved and unlovable MG badged Chinese creation is never going to fly off the shelves.
The reality is that most people want this kind of thing on their driveway http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012... as they see it being much better than a Mondeo etc even when the lesser badge is attached to a better spec lower mileage car that may be more fit for purpose.
I seriously wish the best of luck to them in resurrecting the MG brand as I'd love to see them on the road again but wanting £12,000 at an auction for it is just delusional.
As others have already said it's common knowledge even to non-petrol heads that MG failed and went bust and thus won't go anywhere near anything with an MG badge. Then you have the petrol heads who know it's actually Chinese and I'm sorry but given the choice between a Chinese car and a well known brand like Ford which has already proved itself to be a fairly decent and reliable manufacturer I know which I'd be going for.
Plus then you have the shocking depreciation. You'd never be able to sell it again so you'd have to buy it in the knowledge you'd be running it until it died.
As others have already said it's common knowledge even to non-petrol heads that MG failed and went bust and thus won't go anywhere near anything with an MG badge. Then you have the petrol heads who know it's actually Chinese and I'm sorry but given the choice between a Chinese car and a well known brand like Ford which has already proved itself to be a fairly decent and reliable manufacturer I know which I'd be going for.
Plus then you have the shocking depreciation. You'd never be able to sell it again so you'd have to buy it in the knowledge you'd be running it until it died.
I had never seen one of these in the metal until last weekend. I looked at one at the local MG/Citroen garage and have to say it looked quite nice. Size wise, I had the impression that they are between the Focus and the Mondeo, is this correct?
The trouble is that it looking nice, and being average in other areas (according to reviews)and having poor fuel economy means there isn't any incentive to take the risk of actually buying one from a manufacturer with an uncertain future in the UK.
The trouble is that it looking nice, and being average in other areas (according to reviews)and having poor fuel economy means there isn't any incentive to take the risk of actually buying one from a manufacturer with an uncertain future in the UK.
They're in a tough position, ideally they could start out like Kia or Hyundai and build up the customer base again but with the MG name and heritage it would probably never be possible. I think in this case having the MG name attached is more of a hindrance than a help.
Edited by PumpkinSteve on Monday 23 January 10:39
PumpkinSteve said:
They're in a touch position, ideally they could start out like Kia or Hyundai and build up the customer base again but with the MG name and heritage it would probably never be possible. I think in this case having the MG name attached is more of a hindrance than a help.
^this. I would certainly consider a Kia (I have to admit I really like the look of the Cee'd) over the likes of this MG6. as an mgzr owner im pretty sure that Mg's shortcomings are well documented even on mg-rover.org. If we defend them its because it gets tiresome listening to the bashing they get and because sometimes you just have to laugh. They are not perfect, my HG has gone and the car hasnt reached 30k yet, they do go often enough to require abbreviating head gasket to HG. They were not put together all that well, for example the bonnet looks like its open even when its shut. The interior on a 2002 model has some components unchanged from the 80's.
Good points
- 160bhp 0-60 in 7seconds and 38mpg.
- engine and handling are good fun.
- gave british families an income.
- Gave britain a brand to be proud of.
- Great community who love to meet up share stories and resources.
- Cheap to repair, HG, belts, inlet+exhaust manifold, waterpump, oil and coolant and labour £400.
- passed its MOT with no advisories good for a ten year old car.
Would i buy a 6. No. if they were still made in the uk or owned by a uk company i might give it a go but im sure there are better propositions out there and the engines while renamed are just k series in disguise. I dont believe that anyone would think them comparable in anyway to a bmw more likely comparable to dacia kia etc...
They probably are not anywhere near as bad as people will say. Probably got jeremy to thank for that.
Good points
- 160bhp 0-60 in 7seconds and 38mpg.
- engine and handling are good fun.
- gave british families an income.
- Gave britain a brand to be proud of.
- Great community who love to meet up share stories and resources.
- Cheap to repair, HG, belts, inlet+exhaust manifold, waterpump, oil and coolant and labour £400.
- passed its MOT with no advisories good for a ten year old car.
Would i buy a 6. No. if they were still made in the uk or owned by a uk company i might give it a go but im sure there are better propositions out there and the engines while renamed are just k series in disguise. I dont believe that anyone would think them comparable in anyway to a bmw more likely comparable to dacia kia etc...
They probably are not anywhere near as bad as people will say. Probably got jeremy to thank for that.
PumpkinSteve said:
They're in a tough position, ideally they could start out like Kia or Hyundai and build up the customer base again but with the MG name and heritage it would probably never be possible. I think in this case having the MG name attached is more of a hindrance than a help.
I agree with this too. People aren't stupid - to most, MG is a failed enterprise and has a lot of head gasket failure baggage. They would have been better off launching it as a budget brand instead of trying to flog a cheap Chinese car at a higher profit on the back of the badge.Edited by PumpkinSteve on Monday 23 January 10:39
People buy Chinese motorbikes based on price, not image.
12gauge said:
It really does look amazingly plasticky and generic, take the MG badge off and could be anything...
Has it done the EURO NCAP things, the safety aspect would always put me off chinese cars.
That's the problem, it's not what people really perceive as being an MG, is it? It's a bog standard saloon car!Has it done the EURO NCAP things, the safety aspect would always put me off chinese cars.
I was hoping they'd tinker with the TF, give it another facelift and stick a 220-240bhp engine in it to bring it more up to date. but no.........
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