How many miles is too many?
How many miles is too many?
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peter hh

Original Poster:

269 posts

237 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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Not a trick question. Me and a friend of mine were having this discussion the other day. He is looking at buying a cheap
run around and he was looking at a petrol Vauxhall gsi with 130000 miles on the clock.

I told him to stay away as it's too many miles and it's probaly been thrashed during everyone of them by some young chav as it's a gsi. He thinks otherwise and is really conssidering buying the car.

If it was a diesel then maybe.


Thoughts over to you folks.

ambuletz

11,561 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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condition & evidence of regular servicing is more important then high miles tbh. You'll hear this alot from PH. your average person seems to have this idea that after 100,000miles a car is not worth holding onto anymore. I would rather go for a high mileage car thats been serviced, and had all its belts recently done, then a low mileage one that hasn't. IMO this is even more important for your friend who wants a 'cheap' runabout. There's no point in buying a GSI with half the miles, but is due for belt changes.

James_N

3,283 posts

257 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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Petrol cars also handle the miles well. Over the years i've owned 3 older volvos all with over 150,000 on. One had over 200k on when I sold it smile

Current volvo 940 has 149,000 on it. As others have said, buy on condition and service history rather than mileage smile

Rammy76

1,054 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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What sort of GSI is it out of interest?

I had a mark 2 GTE 16V Astra and it had 138000 miles when I got it. It ran great, used no oil and I gave it a very hard life up to selling it at 160000. I found the Vauxhalls of that era had quite tough engines.

AndyCowman

359 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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Depends on the car (engine used etc), the condition now and how it is has been looked after.

Our mk3 Golf is on 130000, the 944 Turbo 127000 and no thoughts of selling because of mileage smile


greeneggsnsam

644 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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James_N said:
Petrol cars also handle the miles well. Over the years i've owned 3 older volvos all with over 150,000 on. One had over 200k on when I sold it smile

Current volvo 940 has 149,000 on it. As others have said, buy on condition and service history rather than mileage smile
Volvo certainly have a good reputation for lasting a long time. There's that P1800 in the US with over 3 million miles on it!

peter hh

Original Poster:

269 posts

237 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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This is the car he is on about.


Classic Grad 98

26,126 posts

183 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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It's a vauxhall, not a volvo!

DavidHM

3,940 posts

223 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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And an SXi, not a GSi...

... 130k is slighlty high but it's the price of a TV, and if he gets a reliable year out of it and scraps it, it'll have cost him £25 a month in depreciation.

At that money, if it's clean, who cares about mileage?

CBR JGWRR

6,577 posts

172 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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My parents had TWO Alfa Romeo 156s that survived over 100,000 miles. Each.

StoatInACoat

1,355 posts

208 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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peter hh said:
This is the car he is on about.

The price of that one would worry me more than the miles. If it looks too cheap (even for that) then it probably is.

Having said that I generally believe that a car with 130000+ miles probably hasn't got there by being caned or thrashed.

Gixer

4,463 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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I bought my daily driver new back in december 2004. It now has 277,561 miles on the clock, is petrol, never uses any oil a d still drives well. Apart from servicing (which I now do myself), it had a clutch at 223k, an idler pulley at 185k and I just replaced a wheel bearing last weekend.

I did look around to replace it last year but came to the conclusion of why? I could end up with something newer with less miles but not as reliable


r1ch

2,950 posts

219 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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Condition is more important than the mileage. Depends if it has good service history etc. I'd rather have a cared for 150k miler than a ragged unserviced 80k miler. But yeah depends on the condition.

BE57 TOY

2,628 posts

170 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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Gixer said:
I bought my daily driver new back in december 2004. It now has 277,561 miles on the clock, is petrol, never uses any oil a d still drives well. Apart from servicing (which I now do myself), it had a clutch at 223k, an idler pulley at 185k and I just replaced a wheel bearing last weekend.

I did look around to replace it last year but came to the conclusion of why? I could end up with something newer with less miles but not as reliable
What car???

danyeates

7,248 posts

245 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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I'd be more concerned about bushes, suspension and gearbox. They tend to fail quicker than the engine over that many miles. cheap though!

Gixer

4,463 posts

271 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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BE57 TOY said:
Gixer said:
I bought my daily driver new back in december 2004. It now has 277,561 miles on the clock, is petrol, never uses any oil a d still drives well. Apart from servicing (which I now do myself), it had a clutch at 223k, an idler pulley at 185k and I just replaced a wheel bearing last weekend.

I did look around to replace it last year but came to the conclusion of why? I could end up with something newer with less miles but not as reliable
What car???
Mazda3


As for bushes etc. all are good. Unless damaged by something they tend to break down with age as the rubber becomes harder and brittle.

As long as its a relatively new car I really don't think mileage is an issue.

As for gearbox, well many manufacturers now say the oil fill in the gearbox is for the life of the car. Obviously to them 'life of car' means the warranty period. Change the oil and all should be good.

What's best a fully serviced car that's done loads of long motorway trips or a really low mileage car of the same age that only does 2 five minute trips a day getting kids to ad from school?





Edited by Gixer on Thursday 26th January 16:15

Gixer

4,463 posts

271 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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BE57 TOY said:
Gixer said:
I bought my daily driver new back in december 2004. It now has 277,561 miles on the clock, is petrol, never uses any oil a d still drives well. Apart from servicing (which I now do myself), it had a clutch at 223k, an idler pulley at 185k and I just replaced a wheel bearing last weekend.

I did look around to replace it last year but came to the conclusion of why? I could end up with something newer with less miles but not as reliable
What car???
Mazda3


As for bushes etc. all are good. Unless damaged by something they tend to break down with age as the rubber becomes harder and brittle.

As long as its a relatively new car I really don't think mileage is an issue.

As for gearbox, well many manufacturers now say the oil fill in the gearbox is for the life of the car. Obviously to them 'life of car' means the warranty period. Change the oil and all should be good.

What's best a fully serviced car that's done loads of long motorway trips or a really low mileage car of the same age that only does 2 five minute trips a day getting kids to ad from school?





Edited by Gixer on Thursday 26th January 19:23

BE57 TOY

2,628 posts

170 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Gixer said:
Mazda3


As for bushes etc. all are good. Unless damaged by something they tend to break down with age as the rubber becomes harder and brittle.

As long as its a relatively new car I really don't think mileage is an issue.

As for gearbox, well many manufacturers now say the oil fill in the gearbox is for the life of the car. Obviously to them 'life of car' means the warranty period. Change the oil and all should be good.

What's best a fully serviced car that's done loads of long motorway trips or a really low mileage car of the same age that only does 2 five minute trips a day getting kids to ad from school?





Edited by Gixer on Thursday 26th January 16:15
That's amazing.

I've been offered a 2008 Mazda 3 sport with a lot of options ticked for very cheap. It only has 14,000 on the clock and has been family owned from new. It's got tints 17s bucket seats 6 cd Bose parking sensors cruise control auto climate control auto wipers and headlights xenons iPod dock led rears etc etc. originally cost £17k.

I've been considering getting rid of my financed Audi to buy it for cash. I thought these cars would live forever, being Japanese.

disillusioned

1,634 posts

236 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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FWIW My old 9-3 is at 196000 miles, I've never bought a car with less than 110k on the clocks, and with the exception of one, have seen +/- 200k before I've moved it on.

I say go for it.