Fecking Peugeots.
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KardioKate

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1,584 posts

177 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Rant.

Girlfriend bought a 307 1.4 on an '06 plate with 38,000 miles last year. It's had a persistent oil leak since she got it which the garage owner (Was a small independant) couldn't track down. Got it into a different local garage over the weekend who has said it's the HG. On a 40,000 mile car.

Awesome.

Stupid fking bd car with it's inbred fenchie technology ste.

Edited by KardioKate on Monday 30th January 09:41

essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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My 207 GTi has been fine, no major faults apart from the odd depollution issue.


Not even nearly enough swearing to be a proper rant BTW.

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

245 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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307

Well that's your problem right there. I though everyone knew the 307 is a complete dog

kambites

70,809 posts

244 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Any engine can have early-life head-gasket issues. I'm not aware of Pug engines being more prone to it than any others.

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

173 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Head Gasket?

Sounds odd. Why would an oil leak be the HG? are there any other symptom like excessive water/oil usage overheating etc ?

Most oil leaks I've ever fixed have been down to split/perished gaskets, but not the head gasket.

KardioKate

Original Poster:

1,584 posts

177 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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essexplumber said:
My 207 GTi has been fine, no major faults apart from the odd depollution issue.


Not even nearly enough swearing to be a proper rant BTW.
Better?

Roadrunner23

545 posts

218 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Should have got a diesel, the small petrol engines are crap.

mini1380cc

2,949 posts

194 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Its strange for a head gasket to leak oil out the way, or so I think. The gasket is bolted down really tight, so much so i cant see how a big enough gap has been created to leak oil. He didn't mean cam cover?

KardioKate

Original Poster:

1,584 posts

177 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Buff Mchugelarge said:
Head Gasket?

Sounds odd. Why would an oil leak be the HG? are there any other symptom like excessive water/oil usage overheating etc ?

Most oil leaks I've ever fixed have been down to split/perished gaskets, but not the head gasket.
Nope. It starts and runs fine and at the correct temp (which led us to believe it wasn't the HG). Garageman had a quick look when we took it in and said it looks like the crankcase gasket... rang this morning to say the HG was leaking. He's a family friend and trusted guy - I've no reason to doubt him.

KardioKate

Original Poster:

1,584 posts

177 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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mini1380cc said:
Its strange for a head gasket to leak oil out the way, or so I think. The gasket is bolted down really tight, so much so i cant see how a big enough gap has been created to leak oil. He didn't mean cam cover?
Definitely HG. It's been leaking about 1L every 2 weeks.

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

191 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Roadrunner23 said:
Should have got a diesel, the small petrol engines are crap.
yes

Unless it says GTI on the back stick to diesels.

mini1380cc

2,949 posts

194 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I know you trust this guy and he has seen it first hand which we havent. Its just really bizarre. If it were loose enough to let oil out it would definitely have other symptoms.

KardioKate

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1,584 posts

177 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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According to Whatcar and Parkers "headgaskets have been known to fail early on 1.4 models"

kambites

70,809 posts

244 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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mini1380cc said:
I know you trust this guy and he has seen it first hand which we havent. Its just really bizarre. If it were loose enough to let oil out it would definitely have other symptoms.
Depends on what's wrong I suppose. You could easily enough modify a gasket to cause those symptoms, but it's hard to see how a leak from such a low pressure channel could have occurred "naturally" without other issues as well. I wonder if it's simply a badly manufactured gasket with a flaw between one of the oil channels and the outside world? I've no idea how close to the outside of the block/head the oil channels run in that engine.

essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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KardioKate said:
essexplumber said:
My 207 GTi has been fine, no major faults apart from the odd depollution issue.


Not even nearly enough swearing to be a proper rant BTW.
Better?
Ish.

smugglersvin

1,944 posts

217 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I had a 1.4 petrol 306 which was really reliable, but being french I made sure that I bought a basic one with no electrics, the only real electric gizmo that it had was central locking which did go wrong, so I took a fuse out and used it manually lol.

My brother had a 1.4 xsara petrol the same engine I think, and he had a nightmare with that car as the Headgasket and the ECU went wrong. It got damaged on the wing and underneath.
He took it in for scrap rather than repair it as he didn't have any faith in the car.

I think you find that most modern French Cars are the same, My father had a newish low mileage Laguna which spent more time on the back of an AA truck than it did on the road, even the Renault main dealer wouldn't take it off him as they said off the record that they were terrible cars and not to touch with a barge pole.

He now has a 17 year old Audi which he prefers to his 5 year old French car as it never goes wrong, it says alot about French cars.

Its such a shame as Peugeot had a brilliant name back in the 80,s and early/mid 90,s

PumpkinSteve

4,233 posts

179 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Why can the French not do electrics properly? I thought it ws a bit of an urban myth until I bought a Clio, the dash was like Blackpool illuminations.

Classic Grad 98

26,132 posts

183 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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mini1380cc said:
Its just really bizarre. If it were loose enough to let oil out it would definitely have other symptoms.
No it isn't and no it wouldn't.

russell_ram

321 posts

254 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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This is a VERY common failure on the PSA petrols. The high pressure oil feed gallery to the cylinder head runs up the front corner of the block into the head and the O ring in the head gasket fails with regularity. Result: oil running down front of block (which looks to all the world like a rocker cover gasket failure) and all over the OSF suspension/brake components.

And people complain about the reliabilty of K series head gaskets - they have nothing on the PSA attempt IMO.

Russ

Edited by russell_ram on Monday 30th January 10:27

petrolsniffer

2,536 posts

197 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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My 1.1 205 leaked from everywhere,sump gasket,head gasket,rocker cover gasket even the gearbox leaked.

Despite that I only had to top it up every 800 miles or so which didn't bother me too much as I changed the oil every 5000.

One of those 'they all do that sir' in the tu series of engines.