solution needed asap

[snowdude2910]

Mods i appreciate this probably isn't the right section but i need an out the box solution asap. I've lost my locking wheel bolt key and have been to a proper garage and a tyre garage and neither have any ideas i've tried external removal tools but they can't get in deep enough into the wheel. I've tried drilling and putting an internal spiral type tool in but this has now snapped making the bolt undrillable. I've tried welding bolts into it but can't get into the wheel hole well enough to get a strong weld onto it.
Is there anything i've not thought of as atm it is looking like renoving all the other bolts, putting a piece of 4"square wood against the bottom of the wheel with just that bolt at the top, sledgegammering it off and replacing whatever breaks but i'd rather not take this option if possible :-/

[Dr Interceptor]

Is an OEM locking wheel nut (i.e. supplied at time of manufcature)? I lost the locking wheel nut once on a MINI, the dealer ordered me a replacement - they had a briefcase full of keys to try, found a match, then ordered that one.

If not, do you know where you bought them, and the brand? The manufcaturer may be able to help?

[mwcr85]

Get it to the dealership and get them to remove it if they are o.e. locks. or you can get fluted sockets which you can hammer on? I used these http://www.powertoolsdirect.com/irwin-bolt-grip-fa... on a 1999 fiesta. you can get larger ones but it depends on the clearance between the nut and the wheel.

[robmlufc]

Can you grind it off?

[snowdude2910]

I tried seat and they denied the exhistance of such a box at several dealers despite vw telling me they ahould have them. The tyre garage must have tried something that ruined what the key grips to so i've since found it under my toolbox but it's too late for that :-(

[cheadle hulme]

Remove the other nuts and drive carefully on some private land somewhere? Replace what breaks as above.

[redgriff500]

Get a BIG Nut.

Weld down the centre of the nut to the locking one.

However I've never seen one that couldn't be removed with a decent nut removal socket.

[mwcr85]

snowdude2910 said:

I tried seat and they denied the exhistance of such a box at several dealers despite vw telling me they ahould have them. The tyre garage must have tried something that ruined what the key grips to so i've since found it under my toolbox but it's too late for that :-(

Try VW/Skoda/Audi or a VAG specialist, they all use the same master sets.

[snowdude2910]

mwcr85 said:

Get it to the dealership and get them to remove it if they are o.e. locks. or you can get fluted sockets which you can hammer on? I used these http://www.powertoolsdirect.com/irwin-bolt-grip-fa... on a 1999 fiesta. you can get larger ones but it depends on the clearance between the nut and the wheel.

I have some of these but they wont get into the hole.

I could gring the wheel off but i'd rather not replace a wheel no chance of grinding bolt off

[essayer]

Hammer a slightly smaller socket over it? Worked for me once.

[thinfourth2]

if you can't weld a nut on the top of it then look up spark eroding

You might find a mobile guy that can spark the bolt out rather then breaking stuff.

[Chris71]

I've heard of people cutting a slot to get a purchase and then trying to chisel them off.

I had the same problem with one of the wheel nuts on my old Eunos (well, I had the tool, but the material was such poor quality it just graunched it like chococlate) and ended up grinding it off (paying very careful attention not to take any chunks out of the BBS wheels).

[Sidewindow]

Strange as it sounds, if it's still possible you could try to tighten it a little to break the seal.

[penryar]

essayer said:

Hammer a slightly smaller socket over it? Worked for me once.

Second this idea, worked for me.

[Superhoop]

penryar said:

Second this idea, worked for me.

Third this

Alternatively, pop to Halfords and see if they've got a locking wheel nut removal socket - it's like a socket with spiralling teeth that grip the wheel nut tighter as you turn it anti-clockwise

[Jimmyarm]

As above hammer a socket onto it.

You want a 12 pointed decent socket, I find halfords professional ones to be pretty sturdy when doing this.

Trick is getting the r

[Jimmyarm]

As above hammer a socket onto it.

You want a 12 pointed decent socket, I find halfords professional ones to be pretty sturdy when doing this.

Trick is getting the rIght sized socket, you may need an imperial size to get a proper fit.

Don't be shy about hammering it on either

Alternatively find a decent garage, I've yet to see a locking nut me or the boss couldn't remove using this method.

[snowdude2910]

I've been to another garage today they hammered a big torx bit into it at first which gripped enough that they couldn't turn it with a 500mm ish breaker bar but when a bigger one was applied it just turned out so I'm thinking the bolt has been airgunned on at somepoint :-(. The plan for now is to try and change the brake pads with the wheel in situ as they are sounding a bit rough now and then when i have a bit more time i will remove the hub from the inside and try and tap a thread into the back of the bolt to airgun it through if that makes sense.

[snowdude2910]

I'll give the hammering a socket thing on a try first though I've not tried that yet but am doubtfull due to it being so tight. Thanks for all the advice it's much appreciated

[Sump]

Dont do this :

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2684546