£4000 Do i buy an X type, 3 series, or something else?
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d parry said:
yeh they are nice them. Whats the insurance like on them??
haha no shortcuts! You have to do what the rest of us had to do when we were your age! Spend all afternoon on admiral.com and moneysupermarket 
By the way, adding your mum or dad to your insurance as a named driver on admiral will likely drop your quote by 15-25% if their history is clean.
magnus911 said:
haha no shortcuts! You have to do what the rest of us had to do when we were your age! Spend all afternoon on admiral.com and moneysupermarket 
By the way, adding your mum or dad to your insurance as a named driver on admiral will likely drop your quote by 15-25% if their history is clean.
Is there a reason they are so cheap?? as they certainly look the part and i could pick a 05 plate up for around £3000 
By the way, adding your mum or dad to your insurance as a named driver on admiral will likely drop your quote by 15-25% if their history is clean.

Jag costs the same as a Mondeo on service parts. All very affordable indeed.
Only prob is if the transfer box or diff go. If it whines on a test drive factor in up to £1500 for a fix to get both done.
Plenty of Jags in breakers so other parts easy to source and cheap too.
That fully specced up one in your post had all the right toys. You can get an 01/02 plate 3.0se for around £2k in fab condition privately if you search and are patient. The early ones have a viscous coupling AWD system, better than the later ones. Also more likely to have had the big transfer/prop done, some taken care of under warranty.
My view - buy for £2.5k and enjoy a good one with more spare cash in the bank
Only prob is if the transfer box or diff go. If it whines on a test drive factor in up to £1500 for a fix to get both done.
Plenty of Jags in breakers so other parts easy to source and cheap too.
That fully specced up one in your post had all the right toys. You can get an 01/02 plate 3.0se for around £2k in fab condition privately if you search and are patient. The early ones have a viscous coupling AWD system, better than the later ones. Also more likely to have had the big transfer/prop done, some taken care of under warranty.
My view - buy for £2.5k and enjoy a good one with more spare cash in the bank

d parry said:
i have just had a look. nice but group 15 for a 1.3 
I suggest you get a quote - I found Rx8's to be cheaper than anything else in that category. Groups mean sod all most of the time, crash statistics etc mean more I believe.
Edited by d parry on Wednesday 1st February 19:22
I have a friend who had a 2'5 petrol 4x4 estate X type and it was a great car, as good as any 3 series and the interior quality was lovely, he did over 50.000 miles in it and didn't have a single bit of trouble with the car.
All he would do with the car was get it serviced once a year, and the jag dealers were fantastic and it was really cheap for servicing costs.
All he would do with the car was get it serviced once a year, and the jag dealers were fantastic and it was really cheap for servicing costs.
d parry said:
i have just had a look. nice but group 15 for a 1.3 
How much have you looked? The power is >200bhp, not exactly Ka territory.
Chrisw666 said:
Classed as a 2.6 AFAIR due to being a turbo, the capacity has the square root of f
k all to do with the ins grouping anyway.
It's classed as a 2.6 because it's a wankel. AFAIK the RX-8 doesn't have a turbo as standard.
k all to do with the ins grouping anyway. redgriff500 said:
X types are utter s
t the mondeos they are based on are better in every way (except the interior)
Oh really? How may miles have you covered in an X-Type? I did about 60k miles in mine and I think they are very good indeed.
t the mondeos they are based on are better in every way (except the interior)I would be amazed if you have never owned one yet have such a stong opinion on them. Top gear?
Six Fiend said:
redgriff500 said:
X types are utter s
t the mondeos they are based on are better in every way (except the interior)
Why's that then oh wise and learned one and speaker of great truth and wisdom?
t the mondeos they are based on are better in every way (except the interior)She'd had a Mondeo previously which was a nice car that went and handled well.
We bought an X type with a failed DMF (as they go anyway I thought I may as well get one with a broken one so I know its been fixed correctly)
It has had further multiple problems - all researched and fixed by using the forums where such problems are VERY frequent.
It is far slower than the equivilent Mondeo.
It handles far worse than the equivilent Mondeo.
It has far more issues, yet costs more !
As soon as I can sell it I'm getting her another Audi or BMW I would happily buy another Mondeo except the quality of the interior is so poor - that is the ONLY area where the X type is better.
d parry said:
Is there a reason they are so cheap?? as they certainly look the part and i could pick a 05 plate up for around £3000 
They use a rotary engine which is unlike most other cars out there. The displacement seems small but these cars produce between 231-280 hp I think. Also, they have suicide doors and were generally very well received by the motoring press. (Yes, the motoring press can be said to include JC)
d parry said:
magnus911 said:
I wouldn't touch that 3 series! Nice alloys but it just screams 'my owner has no mechanical sympathy'.
How about an RX8?
i have just had a look. nice but group 15 for a 1.3 How about an RX8?

FreeLitres said:
redgriff500 said:
X types are utter s
t the mondeos they are based on are better in every way (except the interior)
Oh really? How may miles have you covered in an X-Type? I did about 60k miles in mine and I think they are very good indeed.
t the mondeos they are based on are better in every way (except the interior)I would be amazed if you have never owned one yet have such a stong opinion on them. Top gear?
Just a truly horrible car IMO
redgriff500 said:
My wife liked the look of them so I bought her one.
She'd had a Mondeo previously which was a nice car that went and handled well.
We bought an X type with a failed DMF (as they go anyway I thought I may as well get one with a broken one so I know its been fixed correctly)
It has had further multiple problems - all researched and fixed by using the forums where such problems are VERY frequent.
It is far slower than the equivilent Mondeo.
It handles far worse than the equivilent Mondeo.
It has far more issues, yet costs more !
As soon as I can sell it I'm getting her another Audi or BMW I would happily buy another Mondeo except the quality of the interior is so poor - that is the ONLY area where the X type is better.
Sounds like you bought a crap example though.She'd had a Mondeo previously which was a nice car that went and handled well.
We bought an X type with a failed DMF (as they go anyway I thought I may as well get one with a broken one so I know its been fixed correctly)
It has had further multiple problems - all researched and fixed by using the forums where such problems are VERY frequent.
It is far slower than the equivilent Mondeo.
It handles far worse than the equivilent Mondeo.
It has far more issues, yet costs more !
As soon as I can sell it I'm getting her another Audi or BMW I would happily buy another Mondeo except the quality of the interior is so poor - that is the ONLY area where the X type is better.
We had one for 3 years, it was great, only issue was the EGR valve needed cleaning out, I decided to blank it with a 50p plate and never had an issue again.
Not sure how you get that the equivalent mondeo is faster and handles better tbh.
Six Fiend said:
Jag costs the same as a Mondeo on service parts. All very affordable indeed.
Mondeo service parts?Really?
I spoken to a few owners and apprently they share very little with the Mondeo and servicing costs aint that cheap. Although many people like to say the X-type is just a Mondeo with a Jag badge, from what I could gather this isn't actually the case.
RX8 is cheap because it has a thirst to match the late Oliver Reed and they have a reputation for engine trouble.
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