Rear fog lights - Why don't people know how to use them?
Rear fog lights - Why don't people know how to use them?
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smiffy220

Original Poster:

181 posts

179 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Why is it, with just the slightest hint of fog or mist, so many people reach for that button and blind me with red mist? Fog lights are only to be used with visibility below 100 yards, which is rare these days, and yet when I'm sitting in traffic behind people, clearly able to see them, they don't turn them off. Drives me round the bend it does. Cue switch on the main beam at said idiot and blind them back. TURN THEM OFF!!!

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

219 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Because people in general are idiots, and getting more idiotic by the day.

Pkh72

1,517 posts

215 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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These people st themselves with excitement because they get a chance to use their foglights and flick the switch at the slightest hint of fog, unfortunately these same fools aren't so enthusiastic about switching them off again as they have probably forgotten they are on.

I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of times i've had to use them in over 20 years of driving. Maybe i've been lucky with the weather or something. scratchchin

matthias73

2,901 posts

179 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Everyone calm down.

People don't know how to use them because they aren't taught how, and they aren't tested. Sure, you could read the highway code, but it is extremely thick and when you are studying at college or uni, you have better things to read.

A few months after your test, you start to think, often quite rightly, that you are a reasonable driver and therefore the highway code is no longer needed, as you have picked everything up by driving in the real world.

Furthermore, there is no schooling system other than expensive lessons on how to drive properly, and people try and take as few lessons as possible, in order to reduce the amount of hard earned cash they've bought.

People also don't realise how bright their rear fogs are.

People think foglights look cool, which is understandable as they often do, and they don't realise how irritating they can be.

Most of the time, it is only stuck up pistonheaders who think they know everything, who care about what other people do, as long as it doesn't affect them greatly.

If this is the most annoying thing in your life right now, I'm extremely jealous smile

smiffy220

Original Poster:

181 posts

179 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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matthias73 said:
Everyone calm down.

People don't know how to use them because they aren't taught how, and they aren't tested. Sure, you could read the highway code, but it is extremely thick and when you are studying at college or uni, you have better things to read.

A few months after your test, you start to think, often quite rightly, that you are a reasonable driver and therefore the highway code is no longer needed, as you have picked everything up by driving in the real world.

Furthermore, there is no schooling system other than expensive lessons on how to drive properly, and people try and take as few lessons as possible, in order to reduce the amount of hard earned cash they've bought.

People also don't realise how bright their rear fogs are.

People think foglights look cool, which is understandable as they often do, and they don't realise how irritating they can be.

Most of the time, it is only stuck up pistonheaders who think they know everything, who care about what other people do, as long as it doesn't affect them greatly.

If this is the most annoying thing in your life right now, I'm extremely jealous smile
I don't remember saying it was the most annoying thing in my life right now? That would be you!
This is a forum for petrol heads and car fans yes? Why is it on nearly every thread posted on here, someone feels they have the right to try and start some argument or other, rather than a constructive viewpoint on the subject matter?
As it happens, they don't look 'cool', they have a purpose and should be used properly! Maybe you should read that highway code you refer to!!

kaf

323 posts

176 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Always a topic with learners.

Empty road behind you, foggy, need rear fog lights.............."Yes"

Now you have three cars who have been following you for two miles.......still need them?.....................errr... "No?"

Correct answer...........NOW REMEMBER IT!

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

190 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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matthias73 said:
People don't know how to use them because they aren't taught how, and they aren't tested. Sure, you could read the highway code, but it is extremely thick and when you are studying at college or uni, you have better things to read.

A few months after your test, you start to think, often quite rightly, that you are a reasonable driver and therefore the highway code is no longer needed, as you have picked everything up by driving in the real world.

Furthermore, there is no schooling system other than expensive lessons on how to drive properly, and people try and take as few lessons as possible, in order to reduce the amount of hard earned cash they've bought.

People also don't realise how bright their rear fogs are.
Good post.

I'd also wager that as most PHers drive at speeds 'above average', they tend to end up behind/overtaking more cars. If you're doing the same speed as everyone else, unless the car in front has it's rear fogs on, you're never going to notice how bd bright they are smile

tgr

1,253 posts

200 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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matthias73 said:
. Sure, you could read the highway code, but it is extremely thick
Eh? It's a thin paperback. No challenge even for a fool

Iain XR4i

1,703 posts

181 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Presumably the lady driving the black Astra in the fog on the M80 this morning was so worried about this topic that she decided not to use any lights at all.

I presume there's another thread somewhere about people reclining the driver's seat too far, because she was well hunched forward over the steering wheel. Or maybe she was just doing that to help her see where she's going?

Shuvi Tupya

24,460 posts

276 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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tgr said:
matthias73 said:
. Sure, you could read the highway code, but it is extremely thick
Eh? It's a thin paperback. No challenge even for a fool
It's a boring read though, i have not even seen a copy since i passed my test 25 yrs ago and i am still bored from reading through it.

My rear fogs have always got turned off as soon as i could see headlights in my mirrors. My mum taught me that though, not the highway code.

The only useful thing i learned from that book was what roadsigns meant!


Baz Tench

5,648 posts

219 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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People aren't taught how to use them??

That's obviously where I'm going wrong. I'm ditching the previously trustworthy 'common sense' method.

They never look 'cool' either, they make you look like an attention seeking cock, end of.


Signed: A stuck up PHer.

TheBurgerKing

181 posts

182 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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plenty of idiot drivers around just get on with your journey and quit crying about it like a baby.

Galsia

2,266 posts

219 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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I use my rear foglights when a tt behind me has got his on.

Front fogs are to be used in conjunction with main beams when a tt is approaching from the front. biggrin

1981linley

937 posts

176 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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smiffy220 said:
Why is it, with just the slightest hint of fog or mist, so many people reach for that button and blind me with red mist? Fog lights are only to be used with visibility below 100 yards, which is rare these days, and yet when I'm sitting in traffic behind people, clearly able to see them, they don't turn them off. Drives me round the bend it does. Cue switch on the main beam at said idiot and blind them back. TURN THEM OFF!!!
On the contrary, this morning on the motorway I was getting angry at people for NOT having them on. The amount of vehicles sat in the middle lane almost completely invisible until right on top of them. Also, more than a few tractors and quads out this morning on rural roads with no lights at all.

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

219 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Galsia said:
I use my rear foglights when a tt behind me has got his on.

Front fogs are to be used in conjunction with main beams when a tt is approaching from the front. biggrin
I've done this before (the comment about the rears). The guy behind me lost the plot! It was quite amusing really. hehe

CoolC

4,500 posts

243 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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matthias73 said:
People don't know how to use them because they aren't taught how, and they aren't tested.
But surly the morons have the ability to see, and to see the other morons infront of them blinding them with their fog lights on in the slightest hint of a bit of mist.

Now surly they can work out that if they are being blinded by fog lights infront then they are blinding the driver behind?

Numptys the lot of 'em

cpas

1,661 posts

269 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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The worst part of it all is that they effectively 'mask' the brake lights if mounted near to them, so make it more likely that you are going to have a rear end shunt. Also, on a motorway you cannot tell if people up front are braking for something or just driving with rear fogs on. Why could they not be a different colour to distinguish them from the brake lights?

surveyor

18,691 posts

213 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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But then this afternoon, quite foggy round here. What became clear is that half the country does not know what to do.

People with no light, people with sidelights, people with headlights, people with headlights + fogs, people with sidelights + fogs.

iphonedyou

10,415 posts

186 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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matthias73 said:
Everyone calm down.

People don't know how to use them because they aren't taught how, and they aren't tested. Sure, you could read the highway code, but it is extremely thick and when you are studying at college or uni, you have better things to read.

A few months after your test, you start to think, often quite rightly, that you are a reasonable driver and therefore the highway code is no longer needed, as you have picked everything up by driving in the real world.

Furthermore, there is no schooling system other than expensive lessons on how to drive properly, and people try and take as few lessons as possible, in order to reduce the amount of hard earned cash they've bought.

People also don't realise how bright their rear fogs are.

People think foglights look cool, which is understandable as they often do, and they don't realise how irritating they can be.

Most of the time, it is only stuck up pistonheaders who think they know everything, who care about what other people do, as long as it doesn't affect them greatly.

If this is the most annoying thing in your life right now, I'm extremely jealous smile
Are you me? I agree entirely.

smile

You can't beat PH, though. The 'argh I'm BLINDED by fog lights (and DRL)' threads are hilarious. If your vision is that impaired by bright lights you shouldn't be driving.

matthias73

2,901 posts

179 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Some interesting feedbac from my last post smile

I will say that the only reason why foglights annoy me at all, is because I spend a fair bit of time on pistonheads and I think I know all the rules of the road now, whenever someone makes a fault I critisise them unfairly.