small comfy car
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eggbod

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209 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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is there such a thing as a small comfy car, i am currently trundling around in an old saab which has fantastic seats and soft suspension, is there a small fiesta sized car with similar comfort on long journeys ?

Crusoe

4,114 posts

254 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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120d with electric sports seats optional lumbar support and 16in winter tyres is pretty good.

Classic Grad 98

26,116 posts

183 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Skoda Roomster is good for this... can't think of many others because 'young people buy small cars so they have to be sporty'

Dracoro

8,983 posts

268 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Depends on how you define "comfy". Good ride quality, softness of suspension, seat design/comfort, heater effectiveness, interior space etc..

The limiting factor of small cars is the shortness of wheelbase. It's easier to get good ride quality with a longer wheelbase as you get on older cars.

I was a passenger in a 2000 diesel Fabia a few years ago and was pleasantly surprised by the ride quality, it was rather good. Seats were OK/average but not soft things you get in a SAAB or Volvo, space was OK so sitting position was OK. I wouldn't say it was "very" comfy by any stretch but for a small car, it was better than most others I've been in.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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eggbod said:
is there such a thing as a small comfy car, i am currently trundling around in an old saab which has fantastic seats and soft suspension, is there a small fiesta sized car with similar comfort on long journeys ?
The answer is sorta yes. What sort of budget are you looking at? Are there any other considerations to what it can or can't do? And are you adverse to modifying?

There are several smaller cars which can ride well, although as a rule small cars are cheap, so use smaller, less and lighter weight components with less emphasis on NVH. Short gearing and buzzy engines also mean higher speed refinement will be generally lower than larger cars.

And extending this train of thought, what parts of comfort are you referring to?

-soft suspension doesn't mean comfy and hard suspension doesn't mean uncomfy. It's all about suspension balance and control in terms of jounce, bounce and roll stiffness.

-NVH and refinement levels are often dictated by things above and beyond suspension.

-Road noise and tyre noise can be tiring, is this part of your "comfort" criteria?

-Handling. While not 100% mutually exclusive, chances are a more comfy refined vehicle will weigh more and be more isolated from the road. This will affect the handling and the sensation of the vehicle.



Picking the right car and combining some subtle modifications, such as additional sound proofing, taller tyres and revised spring and damper rates could drastically change the comfort level of a car. This is likely the most sensible and ultimate way to achieve what you are asking for.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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panda 4x4 with big squishy tyres


eggbod

Original Poster:

96 posts

209 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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comfort as far as i am concerned is getting to your destination with less fatigue, so supportive seats, good ride, low noise, good visibility, easy to drive.

jbi

12,697 posts

227 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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The problem is fundamentally the short wheelbase which causes a pogo like effect.

You can try and minimise it with trick suspension and tyres, but you will still get the bouncy bouncy to some degree.

Uhura fighter

7,018 posts

206 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Nissan Cube.


mike325112

1,074 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Crusoe said:
120d with electric sports seats optional lumbar support and 16in winter tyres is pretty good.
rofl As much as I loved my 120d, it being comfy never crossed my mind...

C30 or S40 would be my call

Crusoe

4,114 posts

254 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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might just seem that way coming from my m sport one on 18in wheels biggrin

DLovett

329 posts

186 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Current shape Suzuki Swift. Drives very well, too.

Classic Grad 98

26,116 posts

183 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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mike325112 said:
rofl As much as I loved my 120d, it being comfy never crossed my mind...

C30 or S40 would be my call
I thought C30 but the reviews (and the 'Ford' hookup) suggest the ride isn't up to Volvo's usual...

the_stoat

512 posts

234 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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The other half has a Citroen C2 and even from an ex Saab 95 driver I find it really comfortable. I have driven it non stop from Aberdeen to Swindon with no back ache or numb bum. Really surprised me how good it is on long journeys.

Dave Hedgehog

15,758 posts

227 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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how small do you want to go, i thought the none s line A1 was pretty soft, quality inside as well

GuitarTech

582 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Golf V: Ok, I'm biased 'cos it's the only car I have at the moment, but if you disregard all the cr*p talked by the Golf-haters here, it's really a rather good all-rounder. It's not a B-road hooner, it's not a weekend track car, but for general daily driving it's very acceptable. In all the disciplines that matter, steering, brakes, ride comfort, seats etc it's competent rather than stunning, typical Golf: Jack of all trades, and master of none.

rajkohli81

311 posts

229 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Crusoe said:
120d with electric sports seats optional lumbar support and 16in winter tyres is pretty good.
I found my Bro In Law's 120d SE on 17s has a terrible terrible ride, worse than my M SPort Spec 3 series coupe on 19s and even my wife's R8. In fact every 1 series I've tried have had an unforgiving ride...apart from that they are excellent fun and frugal.

GBDG

896 posts

177 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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You can spec he Merc A class with some very nice leather seats. Not a great car otherwise, but if that is the primary criteria.

Classic Grad 98

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183 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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GuitarTech said:
Golf V
Actually if budget doesn't allow a V the IV actually has a good ride on 15" wheels... so much so that they don't tend to rattle and squeak as much as others in the class so a nice relaxing drive.

eggbod

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96 posts

209 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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sorry i'm a (modern) vag hater