7-seater crash testing
Discussion
I'm considering buying a 7-seater VW/Vauxhall/whatever. And then I was told about the Fifth Gear test they performed. Hardly scientific (the lorry ran amuk afterwards) but still worrying.
Has anyone any idea if there have been any reports, proper crash test, that sort of thing?
I've got two grandchildren I'd like to take around with their parents and me and the wife.
Or any alternatives?
Video here:
http://fwd.channel5.com/fifth-gear/videos/features...
Has anyone any idea if there have been any reports, proper crash test, that sort of thing?
I've got two grandchildren I'd like to take around with their parents and me and the wife.
Or any alternatives?
Video here:
http://fwd.channel5.com/fifth-gear/videos/features...
just dont crash 
or get this and never worry again
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or get this and never worry again
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Edited by SystemParanoia on Thursday 16th February 17:49
All here: http://www.euroncap.com/home.aspx
Just chose the Small MPV or Large MPV on the left hand side.
A couple of things to bear in mind:
1. The chance of you actually exactly replicating an NCAP test in real life is infantessimally small, and so the results of any particular test is, in a way, irrelvant. What it is however, is a level playing field for cars to be assessed (and I can't think of any other way it could be done).
2. Cars these days are largely engineered to pass NCAP tests, rather than purely in pursuit of safety. There is, of course, a very strong correlation between the two, but don't choose a car purely because it has a better NCAP score than another; the other car may be safer in real world terms.
Just chose the Small MPV or Large MPV on the left hand side.
A couple of things to bear in mind:
1. The chance of you actually exactly replicating an NCAP test in real life is infantessimally small, and so the results of any particular test is, in a way, irrelvant. What it is however, is a level playing field for cars to be assessed (and I can't think of any other way it could be done).
2. Cars these days are largely engineered to pass NCAP tests, rather than purely in pursuit of safety. There is, of course, a very strong correlation between the two, but don't choose a car purely because it has a better NCAP score than another; the other car may be safer in real world terms.
Edited by monthefish on Thursday 16th February 17:59
I was shocked that these are not tested as a matter of course for rear-end shunts.
A couple of years ago I had a lift in the rear seat of the Zafira, and at the time thought that there is no way I would ever do so again. My head was almost touching the rear window, I definitely would not put anyone in the back of one of these vehicles if I had one.
Not sure about the VW as I have never sat in the back of one, but I do not see how it would be any different.
A couple of years ago I had a lift in the rear seat of the Zafira, and at the time thought that there is no way I would ever do so again. My head was almost touching the rear window, I definitely would not put anyone in the back of one of these vehicles if I had one.
Not sure about the VW as I have never sat in the back of one, but I do not see how it would be any different.
monthefish said:
All here: http://www.euroncap.com/home.aspx
Just chose the Small MPV or Large MPV on the left hand side.
Thnaks for that but there's nothing specific that I can find about the rearmost seats.Just chose the Small MPV or Large MPV on the left hand side.
monthefish said:
All here: http://www.euroncap.com/home.aspx
Just chose the Small MPV or Large MPV on the left hand side.
A couple of things to bear in mind:
1. The chance of you actually exactly replicating an NCAP test in real life is infantessimally small, and so the results of any particular test is, in a way, irrelvant. What it is however, is a level playing field for cars to be assessed (and I can't think of any other way it could be done).
2. Cars these days are largely engineered to pass NCAP tests, rather than purely in pursuit of safety. There is, of course, a very strong correlation between the two, but don't choose a car purely because it has a better NCAP score than another; the other car may be safer in real world terms.
NCAP tests are not a level playing field across all cars, only cars of the same size. The occupants of an NCAP 5 star supermini are always going to come off worse against a 1 star large 4x4, you can't beat physics.Just chose the Small MPV or Large MPV on the left hand side.
A couple of things to bear in mind:
1. The chance of you actually exactly replicating an NCAP test in real life is infantessimally small, and so the results of any particular test is, in a way, irrelvant. What it is however, is a level playing field for cars to be assessed (and I can't think of any other way it could be done).
2. Cars these days are largely engineered to pass NCAP tests, rather than purely in pursuit of safety. There is, of course, a very strong correlation between the two, but don't choose a car purely because it has a better NCAP score than another; the other car may be safer in real world terms.
Edited by monthefish on Thursday 16th February 17:59
Fish981 said:
monthefish said:
All here: http://www.euroncap.com/home.aspx
Just chose the Small MPV or Large MPV on the left hand side.
A couple of things to bear in mind:
1. The chance of you actually exactly replicating an NCAP test in real life is infantessimally small, and so the results of any particular test is, in a way, irrelvant. What it is however, is a level playing field for cars to be assessed (and I can't think of any other way it could be done).
2. Cars these days are largely engineered to pass NCAP tests, rather than purely in pursuit of safety. There is, of course, a very strong correlation between the two, but don't choose a car purely because it has a better NCAP score than another; the other car may be safer in real world terms.
NCAP tests are not a level playing field across all cars, only cars of the same size. Just chose the Small MPV or Large MPV on the left hand side.
A couple of things to bear in mind:
1. The chance of you actually exactly replicating an NCAP test in real life is infantessimally small, and so the results of any particular test is, in a way, irrelvant. What it is however, is a level playing field for cars to be assessed (and I can't think of any other way it could be done).
2. Cars these days are largely engineered to pass NCAP tests, rather than purely in pursuit of safety. There is, of course, a very strong correlation between the two, but don't choose a car purely because it has a better NCAP score than another; the other car may be safer in real world terms.
The same NCAP crash tests are used for a supermini as they are for the large 4x4, hence it is a level playing field.
Fish981 said:
The occupants of an NCAP 5 star supermini are always going to come off worse against a 1 star large 4x4, you can't beat physics.
But you're woefully wrong on your second point; I'd rather crash in a 5 star supermini than a 1 star large 4x4.Have a look at this - I know its not the perfect illustration (and you can pick faults with Fifth Gear crash tests until the cows come home) however:
- The Disco is better than a 1 star
- The Espace is worse than a 5 star
- The Espace is likely to be at least 1,000Kg lighter than the Disco.
So put a (far) worse 4x4 against a higher scoring (but smaller supermini) and the result would probably be roughly the same, if not better for the supermini.
....or this - a far heavier old Volvo against the smaller modus.
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