Churchill insurance and 'modifications'
Churchill insurance and 'modifications'
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Patrick Bateman

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13,024 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Just want to get some views here as I'm aware you can get many different answers depending on the knowledge of the operator on the other end of the phone.

I have a second set of alloys for the winter (same manufacturer), ones that I'm led to believe were an optional extra from the factory on my car. I was told that they can't insure anyone under 25 on a car with modifications and that these would be a modification should they be on the car.

Is he talking out his arse?

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

196 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Patrick Bateman said:
Just want to get some views here as I'm aware you can get many different answers depending on the knowledge of the operator on the other end of the phone.

I have a second set of alloys for the winter (same manufacturer), ones that I'm led to believe were an optional extra from the factory on my car. I was told that they can't insure anyone under 25 on a car with modifications and that these would be a modification should they be on the car.

Is he talking out his arse?
Depends on their underwriting criteria it may seem pointless to you but there must be a reason for their decision.
We'd note manufacturer alloys but doesn't affect the premium.

Patrick Bateman

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197 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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ZOLLAR said:
Depends on their underwriting criteria it may seem pointless to you but there must be a reason for their decision.
We'd note manufacturer alloys but doesn't affect the premium.
Yeah, with admiral selecting the modification 'Alloys- optional extra' doesn't change the premium.

davepoth

29,395 posts

222 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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The line the call centre people are told to parrot is that any departure from the specification the car left the factory in is a modification. If it's OE alloys that are the same size as the ones currently on the car there really shouldn't be a problem, but it's always best to tell them regardless. If the person you speak to on the phone doesn't like it, ask for their boss.

16v stretch

985 posts

180 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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You'll find the same information from all RBSI's insurance companies. All are now underwritten by UKI and have pretty much the same restrictions.

Patrick Bateman

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13,024 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Admiral have price-matched Elephant so looks like I'll be sticking with them then, unless Flux can pull something out the hat.

richtea78

5,574 posts

181 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Patrick Bateman said:
Admiral have price-matched Elephant
You do surprise me, considering they are the same company smile

Mastodon2

14,164 posts

188 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Discussing changing the exhaust on my car with my insurer the other day;

Her - "Will it increase the bhp of your car by more than 15bhp?"
Me - "No, it's going to have the same diameter pipework as the one already on there"
"Does that affect it?"
"Increasing pipe diameter will allow for more power yes, but really only after you've remapped the car to take advantage of the increased gas flow, the one I'm getting is for the look and noise only, purely aesthetic."
"Oh ok, well I don't really know anything about cars anyway so I'll take your word for it!"

Good to know I won't be paying anything to fit my new exhaust, worrying how little a major insurer teaches their staff about modifications. No wonder they want to know when you change the floor mats, they'll be wanting to know when you alter the tyre pressures next!

Patrick Bateman

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Sunday 19th February 2012
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richtea78 said:
You do surprise me, considering they are the same company smile
It doesn't stop them sending a renewal quote £100 higher.

Patrick Bateman

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Sunday 19th February 2012
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Mastodon2 said:
Discussing changing the exhaust on my car with my insurer the other day;

Her - "Will it increase the bhp of your car by more than 15bhp?"
Me - "No, it's going to have the same diameter pipework as the one already on there"
"Does that affect it?"
"Increasing pipe diameter will allow for more power yes, but really only after you've remapped the car to take advantage of the increased gas flow, the one I'm getting is for the look and noise only, purely aesthetic."
"Oh ok, well I don't really know anything about cars anyway so I'll take your word for it!"

Good to know I won't be paying anything to fit my new exhaust, worrying how little a major insurer teaches their staff about modifications. No wonder they want to know when you change the floor mats, they'll be wanting to know when you alter the tyre pressures next!
All you had to do was say no.

McSam

6,753 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Patrick Bateman said:
Mastodon2 said:
Discussing changing the exhaust on my car with my insurer the other day;

Her - "Will it increase the bhp of your car by more than 15bhp?"
Me - "No, it's going to have the same diameter pipework as the one already on there"
"Does that affect it?"
"Increasing pipe diameter will allow for more power yes, but really only after you've remapped the car to take advantage of the increased gas flow, the one I'm getting is for the look and noise only, purely aesthetic."
"Oh ok, well I don't really know anything about cars anyway so I'll take your word for it!"

Good to know I won't be paying anything to fit my new exhaust, worrying how little a major insurer teaches their staff about modifications. No wonder they want to know when you change the floor mats, they'll be wanting to know when you alter the tyre pressures next!
All you had to do was say no.
Would have made for a st anecdote, though. You sound like Clarkson feigning complete ignorance of anything engineering because it's "for geeks"!

Thanks for the heads-up about Admiral Group not minding about manufacturer-spec alloys, I shall bear that in mind smile

Patrick Bateman

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Sunday 19th February 2012
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McSam said:
Would have made for a st anecdote, though. You sound like Clarkson feigning complete ignorance of anything engineering because it's "for geeks"!

Thanks for the heads-up about Admiral Group not minding about manufacturer-spec alloys, I shall bear that in mind smile
It was no Partridge and blue Peter, that's for sure.

Mastodon2

14,164 posts

188 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Patrick Bateman said:
All you had to do was say no.
With one of the most common upgrades for any enthusiast's car, you'd imagine they'd be a bit more up to speed with it - it's their job. Do you sit at work and just take Tom, Dick or Harry's advice on things you should be competent with?

Patrick Bateman

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13,024 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Mastodon2 said:
With one of the most common upgrades for any enthusiast's car, you'd imagine they'd be a bit more up to speed with it - it's their job. Do you sit at work and just take Tom, Dick or Harry's advice on things you should be competent with?
Regardless, it's still all you had to say. wink