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A lot of the lighting work was completed last year - I believe the extensive section in turmoil is now due to the planned "Managed Motorway" work they are doing, quite why a lot of this work couldn't be done when they put up the concrete central reservations and lighting is beyond me. I presume it's because each project is signed off and managed separately rather than there being a single cohesive plan for our roads.
http://www.highways.gov.uk/knowledge/25754.aspx
Variable speed limits and hard shoulder running... and lots of gantry cameras, the future is bright.
As well as this larger project it seems there are also 5 lots of roadworks underway:
http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/23948.aspx
http://www.highways.gov.uk/knowledge/25754.aspx
Variable speed limits and hard shoulder running... and lots of gantry cameras, the future is bright.
As well as this larger project it seems there are also 5 lots of roadworks underway:
http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/23948.aspx
roystinho said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but they aren't just replacing lights I don't think. I've heard they're putting in a traffic management system ie variable speed limits with cameras to help with the horrendous congestion that occurs in rush hours
dont think speed limits will help congestion. (think goverment revenue)learning how to drive on a motorway would.
roystinho said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but they aren't just replacing lights I don't think. I've heard they're putting in a traffic management system ie variable speed limits with cameras to help with the horrendous congestion that occurs in rush hours
You're right - they are replacing the lights on the very top section by the farmhouse and then they're installing the managed motorway to the East of that. Originally these were two seperate sets of roadworks however they have now merged into one 20-mile section of 50mph with average speed cameras on the Eastbound side. Westbound still has a bit of a gap between the two but it's probably only a mile or so.roystinho said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but they aren't just replacing lights I don't think. I've heard they're putting in a traffic management system ie variable speed limits with cameras to help with the horrendous congestion that occurs in rush hours
That will work about as well as it works everyewhere else they've wasted money sticking them up.Either the traffic is so heavy that you're stationary under a 40mph variable speed limit sign, or you're ambling along at 60mph on a half empty motorway.
They are only effective when the traffic flow is at a certain, and very narrow level... the rest of the time they are a complete waste of money.
Chris Stott][Rant said:
20 miles of 50mph average speed camera monitored roadworks between Leeds and Manchester as they replace the lighting... why on earth can't they do it one section (say, 1 mile) at a time rather than bugger up the entire 20 mile stretch?
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Everything is better up North
Unfortunately I can't get away from it either North or South... I live in Weybridge, I spend most of the week in Harrogate (where my sales team are based), and my customer is based in Manchester!
So I have to drive from Weybridge to Harrogate and back every week and most weeks have to drive to Manchester and back from Harrogate
So I have to drive from Weybridge to Harrogate and back every week and most weeks have to drive to Manchester and back from Harrogate
Dropped a note to the Highways Agency asking why they felt it necessary to have 20 miles of roadworks on at the same time. Got a very quick reply...
Dear Mr. Scott
Thank you for your correspondence to the Highways Agency Information Line on 27th February 2012.
We currently have 3 sets of planned works on the M62 in West Yorkshire. These are the M62 Junction 25 to Junction 30 managed motorway scheme and the M62 Junction 22 to 23 & Junction 24 to 25 Lighting Refurbishment Schemes. The 3 schemes have different objectives. The M62 J22 to J23 & J24 to J25 Lighting Refurbishment Schemes is required to replace the street lighting in this section of our network. The street lighting in these sections has reached the end of its life and needs to be replaced. These new lights are more energy efficient and have lower maintenance costs; resulting in better value for the tax payer. If you would like any further information about these lighting schemes please visit the scheme website which can be accessed via the attached link http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/projects/33521.as...
The final scheme is the M62 J25 to J30 managed motorway scheme which is being implemented to improve congestion on this section of our network. Congestion on the motorway and strategic road network in England costs an estimate £3 billion every year, with 25% of this resulting from incidents. Implementing managed motorways on the M62 in West Yorkshire will improve safety; make journeys more reliable and, by doing so, create economic benefits for the region and the country as a whole. Our economic assessment of the scheme has concluded that every pound we invest in improving the M62 between J25 to J30 will generate approximately six pounds in economic benefits in return. If you would like any further information about the managed motorway scheme please visit the scheme website which can be accessed via the attached link, http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/projects/24037.as...
All 3 sets of works have been carefully planned to take a sectional approach and we have installed the traffic management in a deliberately planned phased approach to keep disruption to the travelling public to a minimum. This ensures that permanent traffic management and speed restrictions are only applied to sections of the motorway were we are permanently working. This approach has been used on the M62 J22 to J23 Lighting Refurbishment Scheme which has used 2 phases, top section and bottom section, and the M62 managed motorway scheme. The M62 scheme is taking a link by link, phased, approach. The phases of the scheme and start dates are as follows: -
 Link 1 Junction 27 to 28 October 2011
 Link 2 Junction 26 to 27 November 2011
 Link 3 Junction 25 to 26 March 2012
 Link 4 Junction 29 to 30 June 2012
 Link 5 Junction 28 to 29 August 2012
We are currently working between Junctions 25 & 26, Junctions 26 & 27 and Junctions 27 & 28 for the managed motorway scheme. We are also taking a phased approach to the new managed motorway becoming fully operational. The first 2 links will open in summer 2013, with the remaining 3 links fully operational by October 2013.
If you have any questions, or if you would like any further information, please do not hesitate to contact me
Regards
Doesn't really answer the question beyond clarifying what each peice of works relates to... which I have politely pointed out.
Dear Mr. Scott
Thank you for your correspondence to the Highways Agency Information Line on 27th February 2012.
We currently have 3 sets of planned works on the M62 in West Yorkshire. These are the M62 Junction 25 to Junction 30 managed motorway scheme and the M62 Junction 22 to 23 & Junction 24 to 25 Lighting Refurbishment Schemes. The 3 schemes have different objectives. The M62 J22 to J23 & J24 to J25 Lighting Refurbishment Schemes is required to replace the street lighting in this section of our network. The street lighting in these sections has reached the end of its life and needs to be replaced. These new lights are more energy efficient and have lower maintenance costs; resulting in better value for the tax payer. If you would like any further information about these lighting schemes please visit the scheme website which can be accessed via the attached link http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/projects/33521.as...
The final scheme is the M62 J25 to J30 managed motorway scheme which is being implemented to improve congestion on this section of our network. Congestion on the motorway and strategic road network in England costs an estimate £3 billion every year, with 25% of this resulting from incidents. Implementing managed motorways on the M62 in West Yorkshire will improve safety; make journeys more reliable and, by doing so, create economic benefits for the region and the country as a whole. Our economic assessment of the scheme has concluded that every pound we invest in improving the M62 between J25 to J30 will generate approximately six pounds in economic benefits in return. If you would like any further information about the managed motorway scheme please visit the scheme website which can be accessed via the attached link, http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/projects/24037.as...
All 3 sets of works have been carefully planned to take a sectional approach and we have installed the traffic management in a deliberately planned phased approach to keep disruption to the travelling public to a minimum. This ensures that permanent traffic management and speed restrictions are only applied to sections of the motorway were we are permanently working. This approach has been used on the M62 J22 to J23 Lighting Refurbishment Scheme which has used 2 phases, top section and bottom section, and the M62 managed motorway scheme. The M62 scheme is taking a link by link, phased, approach. The phases of the scheme and start dates are as follows: -
 Link 1 Junction 27 to 28 October 2011
 Link 2 Junction 26 to 27 November 2011
 Link 3 Junction 25 to 26 March 2012
 Link 4 Junction 29 to 30 June 2012
 Link 5 Junction 28 to 29 August 2012
We are currently working between Junctions 25 & 26, Junctions 26 & 27 and Junctions 27 & 28 for the managed motorway scheme. We are also taking a phased approach to the new managed motorway becoming fully operational. The first 2 links will open in summer 2013, with the remaining 3 links fully operational by October 2013.
If you have any questions, or if you would like any further information, please do not hesitate to contact me
Regards
Doesn't really answer the question beyond clarifying what each peice of works relates to... which I have politely pointed out.
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