RE: PH Carpool: VW Sand Rail
RE: PH Carpool: VW Sand Rail
Monday 12th March 2012

PH Carpool: VW Sand Rail

PH's own tech team has some very unusual vehicles in its fleet...



Name:
Oliver 'Switch' Kibblewhite

Car:
'72 VW-based Sand Rail. It's effectively a 1.3-litre, single port, non-doghouse flat-four beetle engine and gearbox bolted into the back end of a standard '72 VW Beetle saloon chassis with a dirty great over-engineered roll cage bolted to where the body once was. It was built by a nice chap called Mark who owns DreamShack.

Owned since:
A few weeks back. Just before a wet weekend no less!

Sensible lad, far from sensible car
Sensible lad, far from sensible car
Previously owned:
I started off (and learned to drive) in a Peugeot 205 D. Passed my test and then stopped driving due to mostly being a very poor sixth form student. But while learning I learned that, for day-to-day use, five doors are overkill. Hell, even two doors are not needed most of the time. So by the time I was in my second year of university and commuting from zone nine down to zone three a few times a week for lectures I decided that the sensible choice at this point was driving a car into the city rather than getting the tube.

So one horrible day in October I went and bought a Suzuki Cappuccino from a nice chap in Worcester. Now, this was quite the departure from the bumbling diesel I'd last driven three years or so before. I arrived in the evening to be met by another Cappuccino owner who'd offered to go over the car with me. One hour, one test drive and £1,800 later and I'm sitting in the driver's seat of my new car with no idea really of what to expect. RWD, 760kg, turbocharged and sitting on wider than stock T1R's front and back. On my drive back to London it bucketed it down, and I'll hold my hand up and say I was scared. Tail happy if you got it wrong, understeer if you were on the leaves. I don't think I relaxed for the entire trip. But by the end of it I was hooked.

I'd grown up with Bedford Diesels, Morris 1000's, the odd 2CV and a black cab thrown in for good measure. But this was a whole new world. The insurance was painful, the fuel bills were not too bad. Then someone rear-ended me and I'd still not had enough so off I went to buy another Cappuccino with the money. This time a nice red one. Same story. Lots of top down motoring, grinning like a loon. Le Mans twice. More road trips round the UK than I care to remember (or my wallet chooses to forget). Perfect.

So the start of this year rolls around and the new Cappuccino has the tin worm bad! So she must go as the work to repair her would be too much. Then up pops this chap I'd gotten to know who builds interesting cars. Enter Mark's DreamShack.

Just the job for London commuting
Just the job for London commuting
Why I bought it:
I acquired this car to fill the gap between my Cappuccino's tax/MOT expiring and my project being completed. I love top down motoring. I love RWD. I may admit to being a bit of an extrovert. I've got a short commute to PH towers every day and if the weather's poor I could take the train so all in all it was a win-win. It's been Mark's development/ideas machine for the last eight years or so, though only making it onto the Queens Highway a couple of years back. So I thought to myself 'why not?', much to the amusement of the other techies here at PH.

What I wish I'd known:
I wish I owned better windproof clothing.

Things I love:
I love that it burbles around at low rpm making people turn and stare by the sheer unusual road presence. If you squeeze the throttle in any gear you're thrown forwards on a wall of noise from the stinger pipe on the back end with a grin that'd leave you with an aching face if you kept it up for too long. During my normal commute you get little kids on the way to school in the back of their parents' MPV/Eurobox/softroader with their faces pressed to the glass to get a look as I drive past and the odd "give it some" gesture from the "lightly disapproving" mother or grinning father.

Things I hate:
Air-cooled VW engine means no possibility of heating. Hit a fog bank (like I did last Thursday at 11pm) and you get damp and cold instantly. Less than fun. The turning circle, after coming from a Cappuccino, is HUGE (though nowhere near as bad as say a 110 Defender, or worse 130). Crappy chrome aftermarket generator pulleys.

No, the engine didn't come from the car behind
No, the engine didn't come from the car behind
Costs:
So far it's cost me £200 for insurance, not sure on MPG (30s probably). Then £20 for a new alternator belt and fuel filter and two half days outside in the rain last weekend trying to work out why it wasn't charging. For those who know Beetle engines the generator pulley had cracked in the centre and become eccentric, which then shook the carbon bushes in the generator to bits and knackered it.

This particular car is virtually priceless due to its unique design and the process that went into building it. The chap who builds them can produce another similar to it for £5K on the road. But they're only so cheap by virtue of some integration with a charity setup by Mark called PowerSlideRides. Whose purpose is to provide both hands-on mechanical training for out of work, community service and young people in the ways of welding, fabricating and general workshop skills in the hope that this will give them much-needed experience and confidence boost to get back on track. The sand rails they build are going to be got together in the summer with a collection of wounded ex-services personnel for a bit of R'n'R and slidey dirt track action as well as around the country at shows (The Supercar Event at Dunsfold in June for one) doing PR for the charity.

Where I've been:
So far I've not been anywhere very far afield, but in the next few weeks there are 200-mile trips to Herefordshire and back (via next week's Sunday Service on the way home if you want a closer look). And a fair few trips back to the workshop near Southampton for tweaks and some PR work with the Job Centre and Dreamshack to help secure some extra funding to take on apprentices at the workshop.

What next?
Remember that rusty Cappuccino I had? She's not gone just yet. Think smaller than this, lower, front-engined, RWD, turbo, 350kg/67bhp and as little bodywork as possible. More to come on that later.

When the project is finished this rail will go back to its creator and I will go off in my new shiny pocket rocket.

And then the inevitable (Jag) barge come winter time when I've given up on trying to stick it out in sub-zero temperatures and just want comfortable and easy.

 

 

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Discussion

MagicalTrevor

Original Poster:

6,481 posts

249 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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'Interesting' motor Switch! I kinda like it though, bet it's a lot of fun. I couldn't quite work out exactly what it was when chatting at BTaP.

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durbster

11,621 posts

242 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Love it. Good on you for making everyone else's journey more enjoyable when they see that on the road smile

angusc43

13,099 posts

228 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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That is just fantastic!

Reminds me of my first "car". A third share in Stimpson CS +II. Mini-based, spaceframe chassis and a "body" of sorts dropped on top. It did have a windscreen, though, and a heater.....

VeeDub Geezer

461 posts

174 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Very cool. If the Beetle I've got wasn't so rare I'd be building one of these biggrin

Watchman

6,391 posts

265 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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From the other thread which featured this car, stick a V8 into it and do this:


chevy-stu

5,392 posts

248 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I wondered where the blue 'rail had gone... enjoy matey.., smile

sam303

428 posts

215 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Pardon my ignorance but what the heck does 'non-doghouse' mean?

LordFlathead

9,646 posts

278 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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That looks like a massive laugh Oliver, good choice of mental metal.

Why not put yourself in Readers Cars and keep us updated? That will be so much fun in the summer smile

soad

34,200 posts

196 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Loving that! Good stuff! smile

s3fella

10,524 posts

207 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Has it really got a vow floor pan in it? All the rails I've seen have either no floor or just an ally plate floor?

If it is a vw floor pan, how does it attach to the frame?

BBS-LM

3,978 posts

244 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Is it wrong to paint the tailpipe a Flesh colour to make it look like a middle finger? biggrin

Switch

3,455 posts

195 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Afternoon chaps biggrin

s3fella said:
Has it really got a vw floor pan in it? All the rails I've seen have either no floor or just an ally plate floor?

If it is a vw floor pan, how does it attach to the frame?
Yup, under that it's pure Beetle. To the point where with a different set of wheels you could in theory unbolt the blue bits from their mounts and reattach a Beetle Shell. The floor pan hasn't been chopped or shortened or any of that jazz.

Dave Hedgehog

15,555 posts

224 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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it looks sooo much fun smile

mat777

10,690 posts

180 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Awesome! suddenly all ideas of getting a comfy, reliable and weatherproof barge have gone out of the window and been replaced by the idea of commuting in a beach buggy!

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

219 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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It's like a Tamiya RC car but real.

Awesome.

Switch

3,455 posts

195 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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mat777 said:
Awesome! suddenly all ideas of getting a comfy, reliable and weatherproof barge have gone out of the window and been replaced by the idea of commuting in a beach buggy!
In that case Mark is the man you should be talking too wink

Broken

224 posts

181 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Good to see the rail again and it on here. Looking forward to seeing your project finished the difference in scale should be interesting.

M@1975

591 posts

247 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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So much want!!!

Always wanted one of these, it's entirely my dad's fault for letting me obsessively watch Mad Max movies when I was younger..

dreamshack

112 posts

185 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Check my website (link in my profile) for any enquiries about the florpan etc and how it's put together, look at the recipe for a rail on there.

dreamshack

112 posts

185 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Oliver is fortunate to be driving this, last year saw it's utter destruction during testing (Hooning around an old quarry, hee hee) The chassis/floorpan it was built on then proved to be a tad rusty inside its main spine and when it crested a mound of rocks and ground out it folded underneath in the middle, tore the gearlever out, and ruined the spine of the pan, the nosecone and mounts of the gearbox, snapped the clutch cable and jammed the throttle full on....
Fortunately the tubes were unscathed so we just started again with another chassis, the one I promised my wife would be her beetle one day, oops.
As for Oliver, you have to doubt his sanity driving a loose collection of tubes and 1930s technology around busy London roads...