Automotive downgrade to improve finances. (What car?)
Automotive downgrade to improve finances. (What car?)
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aldo56

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80 posts

205 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Morning all, I've decided that now is a good time to start saving for a flat deposit. I've currently got very little in the way of savings but I have you an Mk4 Golf R32 to sell...

I'm looking for suggestions on what to replace the Golf with, the budget I've set myself is around 2000.

The Golf is currently averaging about 23mpg so in order to further aid my finances i'd like the new car to improve on that (>27mpg).

I'd like at least a bit of performance and i'm not really really fussed if it's a FWD, 4WD, hatch, saloon, estate etc.

I'm 25 next month so insurance shouldn't be too bad but clearly, I don't want to be ruined by the insurers. Equally, I'm relatively handy with spanners and I'm not scared of working on my own cars.

Suggestions?

To summarise: 2000 ono, >27mpg, any layout, insurance not too much of a problem.

C. Grimsley

1,378 posts

215 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Do you use the car a lot as in commute to work? Peugeot 306 gti, swift car and can be had from about 1000 (getting on a bit now tho). Good all rounder, can get about 30 mpg without to much bother.


Carl

eldar

24,713 posts

216 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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How many miles a year?

jbi

12,696 posts

224 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Is the difference in fuel economy really worth it considering the initual cost?

Your better off keeping the golf IMO

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

218 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Unless your doing 30k a year the selling and buying costs will mean it will take many many years to get ahead of the poor price you will get for your car and of course the purchase price.


Of course if you can somehow sell your car without taking a bath and then buy at well under Market value and buy a good example needing little or no work then happy days.

Whats the R32 worth?4k?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

224 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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How many miles are you doing a year?


The Moose

23,490 posts

229 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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It's a cliche, but have a gander at a mk1 mx5. 1.8 is a blast and unless you have a foot of lead it should return circa 28. Well within your budget. And great fun smile

FarmerJim

719 posts

179 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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A Mk1 Focus of some sort. A hoot to drive, cheap to run and insure, very reliable and if anything were to go ping, the spare parts are cheap.

tr7v8

7,504 posts

248 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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The Moose said:
It's a cliche, but have a gander at a mk1 mx5. 1.8 is a blast and unless you have a foot of lead it should return circa 28. Well within your budget. And great fun smile
That would be my thought, a solid MX5 is peanuts & very cheap to run through an indie.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

169 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Astra mk4 coupe turbo?

obob

4,193 posts

214 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Welshbeef said:
Unless your doing 30k a year the selling and buying costs will mean it will take many many years to get ahead of the poor price you will get for your car and of course the purchase price.


Of course if you can somehow sell your car without taking a bath and then buy at well under Market value and buy a good example needing little or no work then happy days.

Whats the R32 worth?4k?
Why would he get a poor price for his car? And why would he pay over the odds for a new car? R32 must be 5-6k therefor he saved at least 3k already if he spends all his budget of 2k.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

218 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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obob said:
Why would he get a poor price for his car? And why would he pay over the odds for a new car? R32 must be 5-6k therefor he saved at least 3k already if he spends all his budget of 2k.
Because a big engined car isn't desirable by the majority of buyers. Therefore you have a small target Market.
Fuel prices are really high the VED for this car is high too.
So really why would he expect to get a good price for it when all the attributes for his car to the mass of buyers isn't appealing. Even petrolheads are not immune to financial pressures.

What makes you think he will get a car for a good price ? My point is its unknown- sure he may well achieve that but to get a good price on selling a fuel guzzler and then negotiate a great price on the next buy seems unlikely. Possible sure but unlikely or he may be waiting a while.

Saving 3k. Well if your going from a car of say 02 reg so ten years old to a GTI-6 which is what possibly 15 years old more things will be perishing due to age plus it's French.

End of the day as I said it's all down to what milage he does if it's high it makes sense but if low then buying ad selling he may well lose out and it could take years and big miles to counter that loss.



braddo

12,001 posts

208 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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If you're serious about cutting motoring costs and saving funds, something like this diesel Citroen ZX (this one is sold):

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3573721.htm

It frees up the capital tied up in your current car, fuel economy will double, insurance ought to drop significantly, but it will still be fun steer.

Even if you suffered it for one year it should make a noticeable difference. If it's feasible, use a bicycle for shorter trips to cut car usage.


aldo56

Original Poster:

80 posts

205 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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My commute (if you can call it one) is about 4 miles a day. I do around 10,000 miles a year.

The point in sellign the Golf is to put the money towards a deposit on a flat. I could sell it for around 6,000, keep 2,000 for a car and put 4,000 towards the flat.

IAJO

231 posts

178 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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mr2 should be possible at that budget.

Also mg zr160, 160bhp under 2k asking price and regularly see 36mpg out of mine plus really cheap to repair, even full head gasket with all belts and water pump only came to 400. Downsides horrible interior, very firm suspension, quite cramped compared to a golf and too noisey for regular motorway travel, probably uncool too lol.

obob

4,193 posts

214 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Welshbeef said:
Because a big engined car isn't desirable by the majority of buyers. Therefore you have a small target Market.
Fuel prices are really high the VED for this car is high too.
So really why would he expect to get a good price for it when all the attributes for his car to the mass of buyers isn't appealing. Even petrolheads are not immune to financial pressures.

What makes you think he will get a car for a good price ? My point is its unknown- sure he may well achieve that but to get a good price on selling a fuel guzzler and then negotiate a great price on the next buy seems unlikely. Possible sure but unlikely or he may be waiting a while.

Saving 3k. Well if your going from a car of say 02 reg so ten years old to a GTI-6 which is what possibly 15 years old more things will be perishing due to age plus it's French.

End of the day as I said it's all down to what milage he does if it's high it makes sense but if low then buying ad selling he may well lose out and it could take years and big miles to counter that loss.
I don't see your point. His objective is to free up cash. If he sells his car for more than he buys his new car, he has freed up cash.

aldo56

Original Poster:

80 posts

205 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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I'd be very surprised if i struggled to sell the Golf at 5.5-6k. It's an extremely nice car!

braddo

12,001 posts

208 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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aldo56 said:
My commute (if you can call it one) is about 4 miles a day. I do around 10,000 miles a year.

The point in sellign the Golf is to put the money towards a deposit on a flat. I could sell it for around 6,000, keep 2,000 for a car and put 4,000 towards the flat.
Seriously, consider occasionally cycling to work then when the weather is OK - that's a leisurely 20 minute ride.

aldo56

Original Poster:

80 posts

205 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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I do cycle to work when the weather is nice. Would likely do it more if we had showers at work, doesnt look too good turning up to meetings dripping with sweat....

aldo56

Original Poster:

80 posts

205 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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I had written off the MX5 as i'm not a huge fan of the looks/on paper the performance looks tame. I've never driven one though so I may get a test drive to see what the fuss is about. Certainly looks like inurance/fuel would be less than current and they're in budget.

I used to have a 205 Gti and so i've got a bit of a thing for older Peugots. Had a brief look at 106s but I feel they would be a bit too small for me, the 306 might be an option. I'd read they are as awful on fuel as the Golf though? Again, insurance would come down a good bit but they are within budget.

Could someone put a link up for the Astra above? I have no knowlage of them and i'm sturggeling to find one.

I also used to have a rusty 328i sport, been looking at these again as they seem to be within budget. Any thoughts?