Monday's Indy: road privatisation....
Monday's Indy: road privatisation....
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Nursing a hemi

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Sunday 18th March 2012
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tank slapper

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Sunday 18th March 2012
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Somewhat less sensationalist here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cam...

The proposal is to contract maintenance of certain roads to private companies, not to sell them off or to introduce tolls on existing roads. The tolls refer to potential ways of funding new road capacity similar to the M6 toll road.

Nursing a hemi

Original Poster:

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Sunday 18th March 2012
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tank slapper said:
Somewhat less sensationalist here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cam...

The proposal is to contract maintenance of certain roads to private companies, not to sell them off or to introduce tolls on existing roads. The tolls refer to potential ways of funding new road capacity similar to the M6 toll road.
That's a relief, as we all know the likelihood of existing taxes being reduced in proportion to any road tolling would be minimal.

sebhaque

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traffman

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229 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Oh god noooo.

This is just the start , asphalt this was going to happen.

12gauge

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194 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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The trouble is, its never 'privatization', its always some dire halfway house, an internal market or similar.

Id have no problem with full privatization, id encourage it. But they'll never privatize the supply of roads, allowing multiple routes to be built and efficient markets to operate. Instead, cartels will form, costs will inflate, and it'll be more ammo for the left to use on an ignorant public.

r11co

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Monday 19th March 2012
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Just another short term gain, long term never-to-be-recovered loss scheme from UK government.

That's the trouble with politicians - they can't see beyond the end of their current (or the next) term.

Think Private/Public funding initiatives if you want to see another example of this.

Nursing a hemi

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Monday 19th March 2012
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r11co said:
Just another short term gain, long term never-to-be-recovered loss scheme from UK government.

That's the trouble with politicians - they can't see beyond the end of their current (or the next) term.

Think Private/Public funding initiatives if you want to see another example of this.
+1.

Did anyone else listen to the Radio 4 discussion this morning? It's a BS argument.

Basically they were saying "we haven't got the money to invest in infrastructure so well sell it off to companies who can then borrow against future revenue to carry out the repairs needed".

There are so many holes in that argument I don't know where to start.

130R

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Monday 19th March 2012
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I support more privately owned toll roads

masermartin

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Monday 19th March 2012
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12gauge said:
The trouble is, its never 'privatization', its always some dire halfway house, an internal market or similar.

Id have no problem with full privatization, id encourage it. But they'll never privatize the supply of roads, allowing multiple routes to be built and efficient markets to operate. Instead, cartels will form, costs will inflate, and it'll be more ammo for the left to use on an ignorant public.
I don't think the public can be blamed, they're just jaded on the back of so many terrible halfway-house deals that they've been sold as "shining examples of privatisation".

The trouble is, like you imply, it will again end up where only the cherries on top of the network will be privatised, leaving the government with the same funding hole to fill when it comes to maintaining 95% of the country's network. I don't think people will be fighting themselves to provide services for the B3014.