Fiat 500 TwinAir v VW Up! v Audi A2
Fiat 500 TwinAir v VW Up! v Audi A2
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JulesV

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1,800 posts

245 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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Mrs JV has decided she wants a new car.

She has had a Fiat 500 Multijet Sport for the last four years which she has really liked. Any replacement must be small and economical as she would get grumpy if she had to pay more than £35 for a tank of fuel.

So today we have been for a test drive in a VW Up! which I really like. A High Up! with leather and sat nav and three years servicing would cost about £11,500. Mrs JV felt it to be a bit bland and slow.

We then went back to our local Fiat garage where she test drove a 500 TwinAir with 200 miles on the clock. It was a lairy blue colour with black alloys and leather, a few months old with 200 miles under its belt. The price - £12,995.

To me the TwinAir made a funny noise and according to many comments on here is not particularly economical. Mrs JV thought it nippy and characterful.

Any thoughts as to which of these would be best? I have not been hugely impressed with Fiat build quality, servicing has always seemed expensive too. She also does not like MINIs so they are not an option.

My only other thought would be an Audi A2 which would save us lots of money. wink

AnotherClarkey

3,698 posts

210 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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Try a Toyota IQ - lots of character and big car toys. And it is almost an Aston Martin.

JulesV

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Monday 9th April 2012
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AnotherClarkey said:
Try a Toyota IQ - lots of character and big car toys. And it is almost an Aston Martin.
Thought about one but just too small.

AnotherClarkey

3,698 posts

210 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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JulesV said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Try a Toyota IQ - lots of character and big car toys. And it is almost an Aston Martin.
Thought about one but just too small.
It depends how much you need the back seats. There is much more space in the front than there is in a 500, most notably elbow and shoulder room.

JulesV

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245 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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AnotherClarkey said:
JulesV said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Try a Toyota IQ - lots of character and big car toys. And it is almost an Aston Martin.
Thought about one but just too small.
It depends how much you need the back seats. There is much more space in the front than there is in a 500, most notably elbow and shoulder room.
Need to accommodate teenagers in the back sometimes.

AnotherClarkey

3,698 posts

210 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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JulesV said:
AnotherClarkey said:
JulesV said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Try a Toyota IQ - lots of character and big car toys. And it is almost an Aston Martin.
Thought about one but just too small.
It depends how much you need the back seats. There is much more space in the front than there is in a 500, most notably elbow and shoulder room.
Need to accommodate teenagers in the back sometimes.
Fair enough - comfy for one in the back, almost impossible for two.

Fleckers

2,878 posts

222 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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i dont know these cars as never been in them

but a fiat 500 twin air blah blah drives past me every morning when I walk to the station, it sounds like its got a 2 stroke bike engine in it and sounds very gutless

to be honest even in the rain and wind its a close call as to if I think I am worse off walking


JulesV

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245 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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Fleckers said:
i dont know these cars as never been in them

but a fiat 500 twin air blah blah drives past me every morning when I walk to the station, it sounds like its got a 2 stroke bike engine in it and sounds very gutless

to be honest even in the rain and wind its a close call as to if I think I am worse off walking
It certainly made a funny noise but it was reasonably nippy, 85bhp I think.

Risotto

3,933 posts

233 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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For me, it would be the A2.

Admittedly they're getting a bit long in the tooth but even by today's standards, they're frugal, deceptively spacious, cleverly designed and feature innovative construction with an emphasis on light weight. They don't rust, residuals are excellent, they can be had with leather, Bose, panoramic roof, etc. The diesels cost, what, £35 a year to tax?

As if that wasn't enough, even the latest and best of them cost half what you're considering spending on some of the other cars on your shortlist.

PumpkinSteve

4,231 posts

177 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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JulesV said:
she would get grumpy if she had to pay more than £35 for a tank of fuel
Surely all of those would cost more than that to fill up? The UP! has a 35 litre tank, which would mean £50 to fill up confused

JulesV

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Monday 9th April 2012
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Risotto said:
For me, it would be the A2.

Admittedly they're getting a bit long in the tooth but even by today's standards, they're frugal, deceptively spacious, cleverly designed and feature innovative construction with an emphasis on light weight. They don't rust, residuals are excellent, they can be had with leather, Bose, panoramic roof, etc. The diesels cost, what, £35 a year to tax?

As if that wasn't enough, even the latest and best of them cost half what you're considering spending on some of the other cars on your shortlist.
There is something very appealing about them. Just difficult to find one with leather and a reasonable mileage.

JulesV

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Monday 9th April 2012
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PumpkinSteve said:
JulesV said:
she would get grumpy if she had to pay more than £35 for a tank of fuel
Surely all of those would cost more than that to fill up? The UP! has a 35 litre tank, which would mean £50 to fill up confused
Maybe my maths is a bit out. The point I was trying to make is that she has become used to a very economical car.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

269 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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JulesV said:
It certainly made a funny noise but it was reasonably nippy, 85bhp I think.
The twin air can be a lively ride if you grab it by the scruff and give it some, although at £12k+ as a demo you aren't getting a particularly good deal.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

225 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Risotto said:
For me, it would be the A2.

Admittedly they're getting a bit long in the tooth but even by today's standards, they're frugal, deceptively spacious, cleverly designed and feature innovative construction with an emphasis on light weight. They don't rust, residuals are excellent, they can be had with leather, Bose, panoramic roof, etc. The diesels cost, what, £35 a year to tax?

As if that wasn't enough, even the latest and best of them cost half what you're considering spending on some of the other cars on your shortlist.
And the worlds deepest glovebox as it appears to end about 2 foot in front of the front bumper

Deluded

4,968 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Cost to fill up makes no difference to how economical the car is...

sawman

5,082 posts

251 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Well, it wont end well if you make her buy the car she feels is bland and slow....

As for the A2, they must be at least 5 years old by now, so hardly class as new

I would take the fiat all day long

Jellyfishfields

271 posts

241 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Would also go for the Fiat, great little thing, but don't dismiss the 4 cylinder ones.

And for what it's worth I agree with your wife about the Up, massively overrated.

In saying that the A2 is often overlooked but they never sold that many and finding a good one may not be easy.

So all in it would be the Fiat for me.

Silent1

19,761 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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My a2 was brilliant until my brother borrowed it and drove it into a train, it came back in lots of pieces, he got out just before. fortunately?

james_tigerwoods

16,344 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Silent1 said:
My a2 was brilliant until my brother borrowed it and drove it into a train, it came back in lots of pieces, he got out just before. fortunately?
Say what now? How TF?

Silent1

19,761 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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he borrowed it from me to take to austria for a while, whilst crossing a level crossing in Austria, going across 6 tracks thought he was across, was told to turn right and promptly beached it on the rails in the path of an oncoming train, tried to push it off and couldn't so he ran towards the train to try and stop it, it didn't, sadly it was packed full of JL Audio entertainment gear as well and his insurance didn't cover the audio kit, my reasoning of £20k on top of £900k is nothing went unanswered.

Oh and i was working away in Australia at the time and was only told 36 hours later when i rung up having read a news article about it...