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Can you believe this. A mate of mine, who works in the same industry as me (finance world, in the customer interface arena) says he wants to order a new car and wants a Skoda that he thinks will be quicker and probably better than my BMW 116iES. What a joke, I thought he was joking at first, but he’s actually serious 
. He says he also has it on very good authority (from a source within the Skoda dealerships) that VRS stands for ‘Very Rapid Skoda’. I’ve never heard that before, but he’s adamant it’s right. He was told it’s like the FQ Mitsubishis apparently.
I was telling him that in our line of business image is the most important thing, whether with customers or just generally, and that a BMW makes such a strong statement about the driver’s success and style that it’s almost as good as having your own PR machine. Well, I think so.
Anyway, he was so sure about how good this Skoda Fabia VRS that he wants to order will be, that I ended up betting him £10 that my BM 116iES will be a much better car, much more of an ultimate driver’s machine and, as BMW themselves say, bring joy. If he does what he wants to do, not only will he be £10 worse off, he won’t have the ultimate driving joy.
I must admit to feeling bit of a twit the other day though. Having read lots about turbo problems on BM engines, I took my 116iES in for an early interim oil change. Whilst talking with the chap at the service desk, who said that a change wasn’t due, I explained that I wanted it done to help prolong the turbo’s life and the engine in general. He said that my car didn’t have a turbo, and it turns out he’s right. Having gone there, I still had the oil changed anyhow, but felt bit of a twit.
It was worth having it done though, as I also found out that the 116i is actually a 2 litre engine, not a 1.6 like I thought. That probably explains why it’s as fast as it is, I always thought it was quick for a 1.6 car.
What do PH’ers think about the Skoda challenge?
. He says he also has it on very good authority (from a source within the Skoda dealerships) that VRS stands for ‘Very Rapid Skoda’. I’ve never heard that before, but he’s adamant it’s right. He was told it’s like the FQ Mitsubishis apparently.I was telling him that in our line of business image is the most important thing, whether with customers or just generally, and that a BMW makes such a strong statement about the driver’s success and style that it’s almost as good as having your own PR machine. Well, I think so.
Anyway, he was so sure about how good this Skoda Fabia VRS that he wants to order will be, that I ended up betting him £10 that my BM 116iES will be a much better car, much more of an ultimate driver’s machine and, as BMW themselves say, bring joy. If he does what he wants to do, not only will he be £10 worse off, he won’t have the ultimate driving joy.
I must admit to feeling bit of a twit the other day though. Having read lots about turbo problems on BM engines, I took my 116iES in for an early interim oil change. Whilst talking with the chap at the service desk, who said that a change wasn’t due, I explained that I wanted it done to help prolong the turbo’s life and the engine in general. He said that my car didn’t have a turbo, and it turns out he’s right. Having gone there, I still had the oil changed anyhow, but felt bit of a twit.
It was worth having it done though, as I also found out that the 116i is actually a 2 litre engine, not a 1.6 like I thought. That probably explains why it’s as fast as it is, I always thought it was quick for a 1.6 car.
What do PH’ers think about the Skoda challenge?
I cant believe there are still BMW owners and the like out there who dont take Skoda seriously after all these years. Sorry friend, but I cant make out if this is a serious thread or wind up, because if its serious it reeks of badge snob arrogance...!!
A current shape Fabia VRS 1.4 TSI will pee all over your 116i, 2 litre or not. Its basically a Polo GTI, which does 0-60 in about 6.9 seconds and tops out at 141 MPH. They aint bad in the bends either by all accounts.
A current shape Fabia VRS 1.4 TSI will pee all over your 116i, 2 litre or not. Its basically a Polo GTI, which does 0-60 in about 6.9 seconds and tops out at 141 MPH. They aint bad in the bends either by all accounts.
TarpaTow said:
Can you believe this. A mate of mine, who works in the same industry as me (finance world, in the customer interface arena) says he wants to order a new car and wants a Skoda that he thinks will be quicker and probably better than my BMW 116iES. What a joke, I thought he was joking at first, but he’s actually serious . He says he also has it on very good authority (from a source within the Skoda dealerships) that VRS stands for ‘Very Rapid Skoda’. I’ve never heard that before, but he’s adamant it’s right. He was told it’s like the FQ Mitsubishis apparently.
I was telling him that in our line of business image is the most important thing, whether with customers or just generally, and that a BMW makes such a strong statement about the driver’s success and style that it’s almost as good as having your own PR machine. Well, I think so.
Anyway, he was so sure about how good this Skoda Fabia VRS that he wants to order will be, that I ended up betting him £10 that my BM 116iES will be a much better car, much more of an ultimate driver’s machine and, as BMW themselves say, bring joy. If he does what he wants to do, not only will he be £10 worse off, he won’t have the ultimate driving joy.
I must admit to feeling bit of a twit the other day though. Having read lots about turbo problems on BM engines, I took my 116iES in for an early interim oil change. Whilst talking with the chap at the service desk, who said that a change wasn’t due, I explained that I wanted it done to help prolong the turbo’s life and the engine in general. He said that my car didn’t have a turbo, and it turns out he’s right. Having gone there, I still had the oil changed anyhow, but felt bit of a twit.
It was worth having it done though, as I also found out that the 116i is actually a 2 litre engine, not a 1.6 like I thought. That probably explains why it’s as fast as it is, I always thought it was quick for a 1.6 car.
What do PH’ers think about the Skoda challenge?
I think this needs quoting.... He says he also has it on very good authority (from a source within the Skoda dealerships) that VRS stands for ‘Very Rapid Skoda’. I’ve never heard that before, but he’s adamant it’s right. He was told it’s like the FQ Mitsubishis apparently.I was telling him that in our line of business image is the most important thing, whether with customers or just generally, and that a BMW makes such a strong statement about the driver’s success and style that it’s almost as good as having your own PR machine. Well, I think so.
Anyway, he was so sure about how good this Skoda Fabia VRS that he wants to order will be, that I ended up betting him £10 that my BM 116iES will be a much better car, much more of an ultimate driver’s machine and, as BMW themselves say, bring joy. If he does what he wants to do, not only will he be £10 worse off, he won’t have the ultimate driving joy.
I must admit to feeling bit of a twit the other day though. Having read lots about turbo problems on BM engines, I took my 116iES in for an early interim oil change. Whilst talking with the chap at the service desk, who said that a change wasn’t due, I explained that I wanted it done to help prolong the turbo’s life and the engine in general. He said that my car didn’t have a turbo, and it turns out he’s right. Having gone there, I still had the oil changed anyhow, but felt bit of a twit.
It was worth having it done though, as I also found out that the 116i is actually a 2 litre engine, not a 1.6 like I thought. That probably explains why it’s as fast as it is, I always thought it was quick for a 1.6 car.
What do PH’ers think about the Skoda challenge?
I'm man enough to admit, i would have the BM too, as much as I know the latest Fabia is meant to be good, and great even, in VRS form, i dont 'want' a Skoda. I dont like their styling (inside or out)and the ones ive been in seem to go ok, but arent dynamically amazing.
That said, I had a 118d and that didnt have the world's most exciting interior (or exterior) for that matter, however it always felt far better built and classy compared with other similar cars. (With the exception of the new A3)
However, saying all that, I wouldnt want a 116 either, sorry :-s
That said, I had a 118d and that didnt have the world's most exciting interior (or exterior) for that matter, however it always felt far better built and classy compared with other similar cars. (With the exception of the new A3)
However, saying all that, I wouldnt want a 116 either, sorry :-s
Jasper3.0 said:
I have a friend who has a 116, when asked he refers to it as his 'wife's car', he is that ashamed of it.
It would be quicker to take a rucksack and walk!
Fabia every time ( don't mention the fragile engine!).
To be fair to the chap, current 116 is listed at 134bhp and 8.5 to 60 so probably feels nippy. But I can't see it beating a 180bhp twin charged with a DSG box in the performance stakes, and they handle pretty good too.It would be quicker to take a rucksack and walk!
Fabia every time ( don't mention the fragile engine!).
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