help needed, sold cat d WO
help needed, sold cat d WO
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Janet Greaves

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8 posts

165 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Whilst pregnant I bought a used car from a reputable dealer. Safefty an obvious concern for me when I asked about the cars history I was given the assurance that 'they never sell a car that they would not want to own themselves' they confirmed that a full HPI check had been completed and that this was clear. They also informed me that they had previously sold this car before. Only eight months after I bought the car, having already having to return the car once due to a mechanical fault clearly present when the car was sold & spending £850 on new tyres, I found out by chance that the car had been a catagory D insurance write off. I contacted said dealer and I was offered 36% less that what I had paid for the car. The service provided and general attitude towards my problem was below that I would expect from a reputable dealer. Now five months on, with advice from trading standards, an expensive and unuseable car sat on my drive and forced to use a solicitor at my own cost to recover losses, said dealer continues to ignore and delay where ever possible. This matter is now going to court. Has anybody experienced similar?

Mod note: Edited to remain within the PH N&S posting rules - 13th April 21:23

DocJock

8,722 posts

261 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Can't help with your questions, but you're breaking the 'naming & shaming' rule.

I'd suggest you edit your post to remove 3rd party names.

Blakeatron

2,553 posts

194 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Cat D can be as little as a dented wing on some cars - I have had numerous cat c & d motorbikes and been more than happy with them.

Toltec

7,179 posts

244 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Why is the car unusable?

andy-xr

13,204 posts

225 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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CAT D isn't the end of the world. I've owned and happily run a CAT C before. I'm guessing your V5 hasn't got a recording on it? On mine, there was a note on the bottom showing clearly it had a bit of history, but I'm not sure if CAT D is 'serious' enough for that

Where do you want to take this? It's a year on now from the sounds of it. Is it that you're pissed off you've been lied to, or do you want something to happen with the car?

Craigyp79

611 posts

204 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Crappy situation, but why is it not useable?

Kinky

39,897 posts

290 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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DocJock said:
Can't help with your questions, but you're breaking the 'naming & shaming' rule.

I'd suggest you edit your post to remove 3rd party names.
Beat you to it wink

Terminator X

19,229 posts

225 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Blakeatron said:
Cat D can be as little as a dented wing on some cars - I have had numerous cat c & d motorbikes and been more than happy with them.
True albeit they can also be fooked prior to repair + a cat d should be priced at 67% of a non damaged car - at the very least the OP has paid too much.

TX.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

225 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Blakeatron said:
Cat D can be as little as a dented wing on some cars - I have had numerous cat c & d motorbikes and been more than happy with them.
Not really the point.

The point is that the OP was lied to, has now got a car with previous serious damage plus they paid over the odds for the car because as a Cat D it will be worth less when they come to sell it.

The dealer has an obligation to inform if it's a Cat D I believe. (Private sellers only have to say if they are asked.) But this isn't even the point, because the OP asked and was lied to.

tbc

3,017 posts

196 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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why go run to a solicitor?

surely this is a matter for a small claims court?

It's bad for a dealer not to say it's cat D, how is it unusable?


rallycross

13,675 posts

258 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Sorry but rule number one when buying a used car is do an HPI check BEFORE you buy it.

Whether a private or dealer sale you should always do the HPI check. The garage is in the wrong for selling you an undisclosed Cat D car.

Nothing wrong with a well repaired car, a good cat D is worth around 25%' less than a good non damaged repaired.

Why is it sat on your drive?
Why not use it?

And what does the fact you were pregnant at the time of buying it have to do with this story?


Edited by rallycross on Friday 13th April 22:00

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

224 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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What did being pregnant have to do with it?

cheadle hulme

2,499 posts

203 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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A HPI check shows a number of things. Of these things, a number can be answered with yes/no. In this context, what constitutes a "clear" HPI check?


andy-xr

13,204 posts

225 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Also, have you put a private plate on it? Or has it had a private plate on it at any point? Mine comes up as a CAT C if you just look at the plate history rather than the car

No problem understanding that you might be pissed off, but just trying to unravel in the midst of some white noise what the problem actually is

Janet Greaves

Original Poster:

8 posts

165 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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tbc said:
why go run to a solicitor?

surely this is a matter for a small claims court?

It's bad for a dealer not to say it's cat D, how is it unusable?
had to go to a solicitor as value of car is too big for small claims court, Trading Standards advised not to use car, so its now sat on the drive.

Eliser

1,153 posts

248 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Dealer lied, end of, case to be answered - I would be severely pissed off and expect recompense - a Cat D car is worth 33% less than a straight one...

snuffle

1,587 posts

203 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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On the other hand and totally off topic.

What would people rather drive.

A 3year old car that is cat D and just repaired.

Or a 3 year old car that was shunted harder than the above example, but repaired unrecorded because it was 1 year old when damaged?


No help to the OP at all, but I rarely am.

Eliser

1,153 posts

248 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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yep off topic - move on

Nickyboy

6,775 posts

255 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Where did the dealer lie to you? If they HPI'd it and it was clear then there is an issue with HPI not the dealer. If they did not check it then fair enough. It may have not yet been recorded when they sold it.

If there was a clear fault when you bought it then why did you accept it? How did you find you it was a Cat D? And why the fk did you pay £850 for tyres????

The fact it is sitting on your driveway is your problem, its not unsafe, its not unusable so leaving it there under the advice of Trading Standards is plain stupid. The dealer has offered you the difference in price as i'm assuming a goodwill gesture so whats the problem?

My car was a Cat C in 2002, i'm still driving it 10 years later with no problems whatsoever, in fact it drives better then my last 2 cars

stevenr

932 posts

215 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Janet Greaves said:
when I asked about the cars history I was given the assurance that 'they never sell a car that they would not want to own themselves' they confirmed that a full HPI check had been completed and that this was clear.
Did you ask to see the HPI report? If not,why not?

Not sure what being pregnant has to do with it either