Sounding fast, going slow.
Sounding fast, going slow.
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fozzymandeus

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1,077 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Saw a bloke in a yellow Ferrari F430 spider driving through Southport yesterday. He was tootling in traffic doing about 15mph, but the exhaust system he had made it sound ridiculously loud. Even at idle the car emitted a big, bassy note that frankly made the car seem totally stupid.

Any clues why a car like that should have such an overblown exhaust note? Was it broken? Did it have a tubi exhaust, or do tubi ones sound relatively normal?

Why do people fit such silly exhausts? I know why 19 year olds fit them to their Corsa C's - they want to be as sporty as the insurance man will let them, but surely a yellow, convertible, mid-engined Ferrari is asking for enough attention to not need an exhaust that made it sound totally silly?

I just don't get it.

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

224 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Because it sounds awesome.

choading

116 posts

204 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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You need more sleep.

Benjy911

566 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Could have had the valves plugged so they are open all the time, my dad's has the tubi exhaust but not the manifolds. It isn't obtrusively loud though, only really starts singing up in the higher rev range.

davepoth

29,395 posts

220 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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If you have bought a yellow, convertible Ferrari, you want everybody to look at you, so I believe the exhaust is normally that loud. Certainly every 430 I've ever heard has been crazy loud at idle.

fozzymandeus

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1,077 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Urban Sports said:
Because it sounds awesome.
That's just it. It didn't - it sounded over the top. I'm sure a stock exhaust sounds better.

th85

177 posts

168 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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fozzymandeus said:
Saw a bloke in a yellow Ferrari F430 spider driving through Southport yesterday. He was tootling in traffic doing about 15mph, but the exhaust system he had made it sound ridiculously loud. Even at idle the car emitted a big, bassy note that frankly made the car seem totally stupid.

Any clues why a car like that should have such an overblown exhaust note? Was it broken? Did it have a tubi exhaust, or do tubi ones sound relatively normal?

Why do people fit such silly exhausts? I know why 19 year olds fit them to their Corsa C's - they want to be as sporty as the insurance man will let them, but surely a yellow, convertible, mid-engined Ferrari is asking for enough attention to not need an exhaust that made it sound totally silly?

I just don't get it.
In response to 'why do people fit such silly exhausts?' What one thinks is silly another may feel is a worthwhile upgrade to their pride and joy or possibly cheaper than an OEM replacement. I quite fancy an upgraded exhaust on my car, not for the noise but for the extra flexibility and torque offered with it being a turbocharged engine. Plus the vehicle manufacturer offers it as a dealer option, it's pretty refined as well. Not wanting to compare a hot hatch to a Ferrari too much though.

In my limited experience of standing close by and admiring the V8 Ferraris aren't the quietest of cars as standard.

Mastodon2

14,138 posts

186 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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fozzymandeus said:
That's just it. It didn't - it sounded over the top. I'm sure a stock exhaust sounds better.
Over the top to you is quiet to another. Some people like their cars to sound like touring cars, others like them quiet and stealthy. Different cars have different characters. A quiet Impreza would be disappointing, an extremely loud Jag XJ would be similarly inappropriate. Horses for courses.

Oh, if it was super loud, then it's probable that it was decatted and had no silencers, just a straight pipe exhaust. I know from experience that a Civic Type R for example, is 89db standard, 95db with an exhaust with no centre silencer and standard backbox, 105db with a straight through exhaust from the catback, and decatted, unsilenced exhaust and a sports manifold gives them a whopping 125db+. If The Ferrari was ridiculously loud then it's probable the exhaust pipes were a system only to get the exhaust gas away from the car, not to have any effect on the tone or volume shaping of the car's output. You are hearing the engine and nothing more.

fozzymandeus

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1,077 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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th85 said:
In response to 'why do people fit such silly exhausts?' What one thinks is silly another may feel is a worthwhile upgrade to their pride and joy or possibly cheaper than an OEM replacement. I quite fancy an upgraded exhaust on my car, not for the noise but for the extra flexibility and torque offered with it being a turbocharged engine. Plus the vehicle manufacturer offers it as a dealer option, it's pretty refined as well. Not wanting to compare a hot hatch to a Ferrari too much though.

In my limited experience of standing close by and admiring the V8 Ferraris aren't the quietest of cars as standard.
See, this is it: I may be in the market for a replacement exhaust on the SL soon; and I don't want one that sounds rubbish, but the market dictates that if you want an aftermarket exhaust you must stink of brut, be from rochdale and have a walnut-hued fake tan!

Patrick Bateman

12,964 posts

195 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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It's a bloody Ferrari.

There's a clue there.

Mastodon2

14,138 posts

186 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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fozzymandeus said:
See, this is it: I may be in the market for a replacement exhaust on the SL soon; and I don't want one that sounds rubbish, but the market dictates that if you want an aftermarket exhaust you must stink of brut, be from rochdale and have a walnut-hued fake tan!
Get a custom made one then. Deleting or going for a smaller than OEM centre silencer will give your tone more bark or rasp, or a more "fruity" sound, as some would say. The size of the backbox(es) will alter the volume of the sound. Most aftermarket exhausts aren't actually all that extreme sounding, most are similar to the OEM system just with smaller silencers for a bit more volume, a more interesting tone and a nicer tip on the back for aesthetic purposes.

Of course, there are some on the market, mainly for Japanese performance cars where rallying and N1 touring car racing has a fair fashion impact on the street cars that petrolheads drive, because rally and touring cars ain't quiet!

007 VXR

64,187 posts

208 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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fozzymandeus said:
Urban Sports said:
Because it sounds awesome.
That's just it. It didn't - it sounded over the top. I'm sure a stock exhaust sounds better.
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sparks_E39

12,738 posts

234 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Patrick Bateman said:
It's a bloody Ferrari.

There's a clue there.
This.

fozzymandeus

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1,077 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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sparks_E39 said:
Patrick Bateman said:
It's a bloody Ferrari.

There's a clue there.
This.
It sounded like a Ferrari V8 on full chat, accelerating hard at say 50+ mph when it was doing 15. That, in my book, is a bit tragic. Seems I'm on my own.

FisiP1

1,279 posts

174 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Straight pipe exhaust is my guess.

Scuds are also much louder than base 430s iirc, any chance it was the 16M?

Benjy911

566 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Scuds sound amazing, this one sounds so good when the valves open.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3envVRJgTAA&fea...

xreyuk

665 posts

166 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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I didn't even know other people on the internet lived in/around Southport.

th85

177 posts

168 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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fozzymandeus said:
See, this is it: I may be in the market for a replacement exhaust on the SL soon; and I don't want one that sounds rubbish, but the market dictates that if you want an aftermarket exhaust you must stink of brut, be from rochdale and have a walnut-hued fake tan!
The one I'm referring to is the Miltek exhausts, they do a resonated version with the centre box for my car that isn't much louder than standard plus it has a lifetime warranty.

CarbonM5

927 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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It could have been a pumped up MR2 with a fart can.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

238 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Most after market exhausts for Ferraris come in several levels of noise output. Many people opt for the loud / loudest exhausts, only to sell them on and buy something a little more practical.

Personally, for a road car, I'd get one that was quiet / medium, as I find anything louder is a pain in the ears on journey of more than 30 mins.