DSG/SMG on an automatic license?

[RyanB88]

Afternoon all,

I've been looking at cars for the other half however she only has an automatic license. I have found some nice cars that are better than your traditional slush box, however one is an SMG and the other two are DSG's. Now, I know how these boxes work etc and how they're much better than your 'average' slush box, so that part is fine, BUT are they still classed as auto?

I'm assuming so as they have no clutch pedal, but at the same time, they can also be put into manual mode?

What would the DVLA/Police/Insurers take to this?

Thanks in advance

[edo]

as far as I understand, no clutch pedal = auto in the eyes of dvla.

[Fort Jefferson]

This has been done to death.

Yes you can drive DSG SMG on an auto licence.

[Superhoop]

It has no clutch pedal = Automatic license

[Contigo]

It's a semi-automatic and has no clutch pedal (SMG) so you can drive it on an Auto only license.

no clutch pedal = auto

[edo]

PH in consistent answer shock.

[Fort Jefferson]

edo said:

PH in consistent answer shock.

[TTwiggy]

Tell her it's fine, as long as she disables the 'manual' button with gaffer tape. She also needs to report to a police station and have it verified by trafpol

[Toltec]

Even a MK3 MR2 SMT, which does not have an automatic mode, is allowed on an auto licence.

[Magic919]

Since it is PH. LICENCE.

[croyde]

A mate of mine has an auto bike licence. I didn't realise such I thing existed. He rides an Aprilia 800 or so cc which can be full auto or you can change gear by hand or foot lever.

[RyanB88]

Thanks for the constructive replies to those who have

Magic919 said:

Since it is PH. LICENCE.

Oh and for you - thanks for your input, really helpful you absolute clown, you've added so much to this topic.

[paul0843]

Very simple..if car has only 2 pedals its classified as auto

[Futuramic]

Interesting concept. I would have thought that DSG type things are classed as autos.

It begs the question of whether a pre-selector can be driven on an auto licence. Early Daimlers and such had pre-select gearboxes with fluid flywheel drive take-up and a gear-change activation pedal in place of a clutch. To move off one simply released the footbrake after selecting first but changing up and down required selection by small lever and then a tap of the third pedal. Would they count?

A similar concept was done in the NSU Ro80. That had a gear-change button and two pedals.

[Ekona]

RyanB88 said:

Oh and for you - thanks for your input, really helpful you absolute clown, you've added so much to this topic.

He's given you another correct point for free, you should be grateful really.


My PDK 911 has Automatic written on the V5. Makes me feel less of of a man when I read it

[ruff'n'smov]

I can't believe that you thought it was worthwhile asking this question and the be sarcastic to a PH'er who battered your spelling .....

FFS ...rant DONE

[AlexiusG55]

Futuramic said:

Interesting concept. I would have thought that DSG type things are classed as autos.

It begs the question of whether a pre-selector can be driven on an auto licence. Early Daimlers and such had pre-select gearboxes with fluid flywheel drive take-up and a gear-change activation pedal in place of a clutch. To move off one simply released the footbrake after selecting first but changing up and down required selection by small lever and then a tap of the third pedal. Would they count?

A similar concept was done in the NSU Ro80. That had a gear-change button and two pedals.

Didn't some lorries have something like that until fairly recently? Not sure if there's such a thing as an auto HGV licence though.

[DonnyMac]

Ekona said:

My PDK 911 has Automatic written on the V5. Makes me feel less of of a man when I read it

Me too on a GranSport F1 box - it's a "Robotised Manual" I tell ya!

[vonhosen]

AlexiusG55 said:

Futuramic said:

Interesting concept. I would have thought that DSG type things are classed as autos.

It begs the question of whether a pre-selector can be driven on an auto licence. Early Daimlers and such had pre-select gearboxes with fluid flywheel drive take-up and a gear-change activation pedal in place of a clutch. To move off one simply released the footbrake after selecting first but changing up and down required selection by small lever and then a tap of the third pedal. Would they count?

A similar concept was done in the NSU Ro80. That had a gear-change button and two pedals.

Didn't some lorries have something like that until fairly recently?

Mercedes Actros is pre-select & then later press clutch to actually change.

AlexiusG55 said:

Not sure if there's such a thing as an auto HGV licence though.

There is.

Edited by vonhosen on Monday 7th May 10:06