Anyone got/driven an Aygo/C1/107 ?
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I bought my Mum one for her birthday last year, drove it about for a few days before presenting it to her. Quite fun little cars, they're very basic and a blast to drive. The engine's pretty peppy and sounds quite nice - and you can rag it through first and second, and you're only doing 45 when you change to third.
Running costs seem pretty decent as well, a good car. I'd recommend one. Just be wary of leaky seals - a bit of silicone sealant soon sorts that out.
Running costs seem pretty decent as well, a good car. I'd recommend one. Just be wary of leaky seals - a bit of silicone sealant soon sorts that out.
We've had ours coming up to 2yrs and it's never missed a beat.
A bit noisy and feels a bit tiny but for nipping about town and going the 12 miles to work I can't really fault it.
Gets an easy 50mpg with 70mpg on a steady mway run.
Other people I know with them all seem to like them, none of them reporting having had any trouble with theirs.
A bit noisy and feels a bit tiny but for nipping about town and going the 12 miles to work I can't really fault it.
Gets an easy 50mpg with 70mpg on a steady mway run.
Other people I know with them all seem to like them, none of them reporting having had any trouble with theirs.
My Mrs has just got a brand new Aygo. 1.0 Petrol with the MMT semi auto gearbox.
It's well spec'd with Aircon, parking sensors, electric windows etc. Really quite spacious inside - easily fit 4 adult. Boot space is limited as you'd expect but big enough to put a large holdall or 8 or so bags of shopping.
It's an absolute hoot to drive. The little 3 cylinder engine's got a great little noise and it's really quite nippy. Handling is as you'd expect with bicycle thin tyres but that's half the fun. The streering's not too light and the brakes are excellent.
The semi auto box has a sequential function and even flappy paddles.
They quote 60MPG and we've only filled it twice (now on 850 ish miles) and got over 50 mpg both times. This was with no long journeys, in fact, longest run was about 15 miles.
I'm really impressed with it.
It's well spec'd with Aircon, parking sensors, electric windows etc. Really quite spacious inside - easily fit 4 adult. Boot space is limited as you'd expect but big enough to put a large holdall or 8 or so bags of shopping.
It's an absolute hoot to drive. The little 3 cylinder engine's got a great little noise and it's really quite nippy. Handling is as you'd expect with bicycle thin tyres but that's half the fun. The streering's not too light and the brakes are excellent.
The semi auto box has a sequential function and even flappy paddles.
They quote 60MPG and we've only filled it twice (now on 850 ish miles) and got over 50 mpg both times. This was with no long journeys, in fact, longest run was about 15 miles.
I'm really impressed with it.
I had a C1 VTR (pretty sure that badge means poverty spec now) when my 350Z was being serviced. Loved it. So light and chuckable, the only annoying bit is that you'll fall off your seat when going round a corner. I didn't feel hugely safe in it, they don't weight much and you feel quite exposed.
I would actually consider having something like one of these as a second car for myself, they are very suited to driving around town which is where I spend a lot of my commute.
I would actually consider having something like one of these as a second car for myself, they are very suited to driving around town which is where I spend a lot of my commute.
papercup said:
What is the difference between them? Is there an advantage to buying the Toyota over the Peugeot? Or are they really all built at the same factory?
Just "badge engineered" at the end of the same production line. Believe the car and plant are mainly toyota infuenced.Sister in law has one in Malta. Done 3 years of almost 3rd world roads and never failed.
edit to add
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Aygo
Edited by A2Z on Thursday 10th May 14:10
Neihbour has a couple of the Pugs for daughter and wife. Both were used as delivery cars for the first 150,000 miles of their lives driving from Kent to Devon every day.
Great runners, good little engines and still look like normal 4 year old cars with nominal mileage.
I wanted one for my oh as a first car but they were all sold or being retained as more reliable than the Ka's that had been bought to replace them.
Whenever I pop to the shops I take a 107. They're so light they're reminiscent of 80's cars, really chuckable. We have hardly anything go wrong with them and they're incredibly economical. I'd look beyond the most basic one though because they don't come with central locking, electric windows or ac. New manuals are under 99g so no road tax.
Mum has had two from new, absolutely no issues, very cheap to run and maintain and perform well in all areas apart from brisk overtakes and motorway manouvres, but keeping the revs high they are quite fun. I second the comment about the seats, very narrow and no lateral support for keener drivers. Interior is very basic and boot space is next to useless.
They're great little cars, and thrive on revs so you can work the engine hard and not feel guilty about it. Not perfect, mind - I worked in a Citroen Main Dealer for a number of years, and the C1 can suffer from water leaks into the front footwells (there's a modification to cure this) and the lock barrels tended to break apart (for which a full lock set was the fix).
The modification to the door seals was essentially an additional seal above the door, so it's easy to see if this has been done. The lock set is trickier, but you can always ask the seller if you're interested, they should be able to tell you if it has been done.
The modification to the door seals was essentially an additional seal above the door, so it's easy to see if this has been done. The lock set is trickier, but you can always ask the seller if you're interested, they should be able to tell you if it has been done.
I owned one for six months, I thought the fun wore off quite quickly to be honest, but they do punch above their own weight. Economy on long drives was fantastic but around town it wasn't anything to shout about.
Sure are cheap though -
£20 a year RFL (or free for newer models), cheap as chips insurance and £99 dealer servicing..
Watch out for leaking issues, particularly with Toyota Aygo's!
Sure are cheap though -
£20 a year RFL (or free for newer models), cheap as chips insurance and £99 dealer servicing..
Watch out for leaking issues, particularly with Toyota Aygo's!
Speaking from experience I would not want to buy one of these cars that was outside of warranty, the build quality is a bit hit and miss.
Here are some naff points I noticed with my example:
Seats are too flat with no lumbar support as has been mentioned on this thread.. not a big problem around town but a bit of a spine killer on long journeys.
Leaking issues.. Mine leaked for months, took Toyota a very long time to diagnose and correct the fault but to be honest the customer service was fantastic and they bent over backwards to help me.
Interior light will only turn on with the drivers door open. No switches are fitted to the passenger side as standard, you can buy a kit to rectify this.. but can you really be bothered?
Clutch adjustment - These cars require their clutches to be adjusted as part of routine maintenance, it's just the way they are.. the bite point becomes horrendously high otherwise.
Here are some naff points I noticed with my example:
Seats are too flat with no lumbar support as has been mentioned on this thread.. not a big problem around town but a bit of a spine killer on long journeys.
Leaking issues.. Mine leaked for months, took Toyota a very long time to diagnose and correct the fault but to be honest the customer service was fantastic and they bent over backwards to help me.
Interior light will only turn on with the drivers door open. No switches are fitted to the passenger side as standard, you can buy a kit to rectify this.. but can you really be bothered?
Clutch adjustment - These cars require their clutches to be adjusted as part of routine maintenance, it's just the way they are.. the bite point becomes horrendously high otherwise.
J4CKO said:
Apparently someone was buying one from Toyota and asked to explain the cost difference between the Aygo and the other two, the Toyota salesman said it is made from "Thicker Steel" 
Hmm, brilliant blag!! At the moment, higher spec's in the Aygo, benefit of 5year vs 3year warranty, and of course at the moment, 3 year PCP at 0%, no deposit required. They tend to hold their value slightly better aswell, purely based on the badge status.
Yup, I work for Toyota, lol
If you're looking for brand new I'd check out the new model Kia Picanto - it's a massive improvement over the one I have in terms of quality and finish and I'm pretty sure it has the upper hand over the C1 etc although it might be slightly more expensive than the cheapest C1 (there are good finance offers on it however)
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