Anyone refused insurance point blank due to post code?
Anyone refused insurance point blank due to post code?
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Thin White Duke

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2,422 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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I'm all sorted now thanks to Adrian Flux.

However last month when I came to insure my Pontiac I phoned Footman James and the first question I was asked was what's my postcode.

I answered and they said sorry we no longer cover that area due to reasons not specified by the underwriters. I explained that my Dad has his Pontiac insured with them and they said if it was before 1st March he's ok but perhaps not when it comes to renewal - we shall see.

Lancaster Insurance also came back with the same approach.

So does that mean that anyone with a classic car in my area can't get insurance with these and perhaps other companies?

The only thing I can think of is the neighbouring town (which shares the first half of the post code) is/was renowned for crash for cash scams. However I was under the impression that this was under control. It's also not like I'd be driving around at rush hour in the middle of a town with my classic.

What if I was a big business man or a celebrity/footballer, would they too be refused?

Ok I'm sorted now and this isn't a rant. I'm just curious if this has happened to anyone else and is it likely to get worse?


Mike 820

570 posts

215 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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I once filled out a few forms online looking for insurance. A few days later I received a call a few days later from a lesser known insurance company asking if I would like a quote. I said 'sure'.

A couple of questions in the guy asked which city I lived in. 'Manchester' I replied. The guy must have turned to his friend in the call centre and asked his colleague if they insure people in Manchester. Without saying a word his colleague just burst out laughing (I could hear him in the background).

Turns out they class Manchester as a 'Black Zone' and wont touch anyone with an 'M' postcode.

Needa308GT4

311 posts

174 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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mate of mine lived in an apartment block in the centre of Liverpool. Secure undergound parking (even by thieving Liverpudlian standards!), 24hr concierge and CCTV, alarmed/immobilised etc etc. Think it was L1 or L2.

Not a chance.

It was a nice-ish car too.

Probably in a safer environment than on street parking in a quiet country village but nope. They just weren't interested.

Thin White Duke

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2,422 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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It's silly. The M post codes will cover a large area. There are some good areas in Manchester as well as bad areas (like all other cities).

pingu393

10,891 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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What will the OPs answer be when asked "Have you every been refused insurance?" on every insurance application from now til doomsday? whistle

Magic919

14,377 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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An Insurer declining to quote is not the same as having insurance refused.

AlexKing

613 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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When I saw the title of this thread, my first reaction was "hey, I bet he lives in the North West - ho ho ho".

Simultaneously delighted and saddened to be proved right...

rohrl

8,984 posts

173 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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There some postcodes that a number of insurers will treat as a straight decline.

Some of the BB postcodes are dicey as are specific areas of London, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham and some others. It's not too hard to find this out, the newspapers have covered it.

Needa308GT4

311 posts

174 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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rohrl said:
There some postcodes that a number of insurers will treat as a straight decline.

Some of the BB postcodes are dicey as are specific areas of London, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham and some others. It's not too hard to find this out, the newspapers have covered it.
BN2 in Brighton is a bit tricky as it not only covers streets such as Lewes Crescent (currently a townhouse up for sale there for 4.5 million) but also covers Whitehawk. Which is s***

rohrl

8,984 posts

173 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Needa308GT4 said:
rohrl said:
There some postcodes that a number of insurers will treat as a straight decline.

Some of the BB postcodes are dicey as are specific areas of London, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham and some others. It's not too hard to find this out, the newspapers have covered it.
BN2 in Brighton is a bit tricky as it not only covers streets such as Lewes Crescent (currently a townhouse up for sale there for 4.5 million) but also covers Whitehawk. Which is s***
My brother had a hell of a time insuring a Mk2 Golf GTI in Lenton in Nottingham as a student. Most insurers wouldn't touch him with a stty stick, while I had no issues whatsoever in central Cardiff.

It's a pain in the backside if you're affected but it keeps everyone else's premiums from getting even higher than they are already I suppose.

otherman

2,265 posts

193 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Mike 820 said:
A couple of questions in the guy asked which city I lived in. 'Manchester' I replied. The guy must have turned to his friend in the call centre and asked his colleague if they insure people in Manchester. Without saying a word his colleague just burst out laughing (I could hear him in the background).
Turns out they class Manchester as a 'Black Zone' and wont touch anyone with an 'M' postcode.
Right. 5% of UK pop live there and he had to ask his mate. Presumably on the same grounds they'd steer clear of London, Liverpool, Leeds, Glasgow, and well, just about everywhere. Methinks you made this one up.

Thin White Duke

Original Poster:

2,422 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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pingu393 said:
What will the OPs answer be when asked "Have you every been refused insurance?" on every insurance application from now til doomsday? whistle
I haven't been refused insurance, the insurer declined to give me a quote. They didn't get past my postcode, they didn't even ask for my name.

So if I'm asked that question I shall reply no which is the truth.

MK Ultra

98 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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It was very very difficult for me to get any driver fleet insurance due to my postcode.


XVar

121 posts

179 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Not sure how up to date this is but it should give a general idea of what areas are classed as high risk http://www.carinsuranceexplained.com/car-insurance...

Bad luck if you live in one of the ones that says "Refer" I guess. As above, no areas of Manchester get above an E rating lol..

getawayturtle

3,560 posts

202 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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My friend in Belfast (BT17) gets refused point blank by a lot of companies, due to the huge amount of cars that get thrashed and torched by joyriders over there.

Usually high powered Japanese cars, Skylines, Scoobys etc. What a waste. grumpy

PumpkinSteve

4,243 posts

184 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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It's a stupid system anyway. I have a Newcastle (NE40) postcode but I live in the countryside on the border of Northumberland, so my insurance is probably more than it would be if I lived another 100 metres down the road and was over the Northumberland border.

Edited by PumpkinSteve on Wednesday 16th May 08:12

Aviz

1,669 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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My brother moved just down the road, and went from a Wigan Postcode to a Manchester Postcode. 30 % increase, even though his car went from being in a communal car park, to a house with a garage.

egomeister

7,577 posts

291 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Mine isn't listed as "refer" on that list, lucky me...

That last time I was quoted it was silly prices though, which one of the insurers confessed was down to the postcode being a blackspot for staged accidents.



Edited by egomeister on Wednesday 16th May 08:42

Shaun_E

749 posts

288 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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SL1 also refused by some insurers for kit/classic cars due to cash for crash scams.

Dog Star

17,469 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Thin White Duke said:
It's silly. The M post codes will cover a large area. There are some good areas in Manchester as well as bad areas (like all other cities).
There's a bloke advertises insurance on one of the Merc forums - however he has some issue (personal, I reckon) with M postcodes and OL postcodes. Didn't seen to have issues with anything else. OL postcodes cover an awful lot of area including some very desirable rural locations. I'm prepared to bet that I live in a nicer place than said person - I've also never had or heard of anything getting stolen round here - yet he point blank refuses to consider them.