Whats the problem with PH's and finance?
Whats the problem with PH's and finance?
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okie592

Original Poster:

2,711 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Every new car thread just seems to be full of people slating people for buying a car on finance, why do people have such a problem with it?


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S10 GTA

13,718 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Nothing. But if this is in reference to the lad who purchased the corsa, then everything, because he was being a tool, and thought he was better than everyone else coz he is 20 with a 12 plate car.

Edited by S10 GTA on Sunday 20th May 22:20

Uncle Gueber

151 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Because everyone on Ph is a HNWI.
Why commit to a depreciating asset when you can invest your capital for 10-15% return. Then you simply buy vehicle outright.

You’ve been on here for 2 years, you should know this stuff.

xreyuk

665 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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I buy a car on finance, because I need something reliable, with a bit of warranty left, and I don't have the cash for it up front.

I cover a lot of mileage and need a good car for work.

Also, where is this corsa thread? smile

After_Shock

8,751 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Uncle Gueber said:
Because everyone on Ph is a HNWI.
Why commit to a depreciating asset when you can invest your capital for 10-15% return. Then you simply buy vehicle outright.
Why buy it outright being a HNWI, you buy a car for cash for £30k just lost £6k instantly in VAT then depreciation on top, better off leaving the cash in the bank getting a decent return on it and borrowing the money at a low rate. Stupid paying cash for them.

S10 GTA

13,718 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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xreyuk said:
I buy a car on finance, because I need something reliable, with a bit of warranty left, and I don't have the cash for it up front.

I cover a lot of mileage and need a good car for work.

Also, where is this corsa thread? smile
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Zwolf

25,867 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Because cash (in hand) is king, apparently...

xreyuk

665 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Fox-

13,567 posts

273 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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xreyuk said:
I buy a car on finance, because I need something reliable, with a bit of warranty left, and I don't have the cash for it up front.
If only everyone was this honest, most of the finance threads wouldn't exist. But people can't bring themselves to be as candid as you. They have to pretend they buy a car on finance because they've got £100k in the bank in cash which they happen to need for an investment.

jaedba2604

3,799 posts

174 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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borrowing on finance is fine for something you need, if all you buy is all you need and you need it to earn a living. a builder's transit with windy windows for example, he will be using that purchase to make money, and hopefully he will cover his finance costs with his margins.

it's also fine for something you want, but as everyone's dad will tell you, once you start you'll never stop and do you really want to be dragging your arse to work at 60 because you have to pay for stuff you didn't need?

Sir Bagalot

7,011 posts

208 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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After_Shock said:
Uncle Gueber said:
Because everyone on Ph is a HNWI.
Why commit to a depreciating asset when you can invest your capital for 10-15% return. Then you simply buy vehicle outright.
Why buy it outright being a HNWI, you buy a car for cash for £30k just lost £6k instantly in VAT then depreciation on top, better off leaving the cash in the bank getting a decent return on it and borrowing the money at a low rate. Stupid paying cash for them.
Actually if you buy a car for £30K then £5K of it is VAT, not 6

daemonoid

171 posts

175 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Sir Bagalot said:
Actually if you buy a car for £30K then £5K of it is VAT, not 6
Been out of the UK for a little while, but has VAT gone down from 20% then?

okie592

Original Poster:

2,711 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Im buying a car on finance, because i can afford it monthly, its a way to have a brand new car thats reliable and fun for 2 years, bridging the gap until i can get insurance on a focus RS.

Not everyone has 16k sat in the bank to spunk on a car, its not needed really, hand the car back in 2 years and be no worse off

xreyuk

665 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Fox- said:
If only everyone was this honest, most of the finance threads wouldn't exist. But people can't bring themselves to be as candid as you. They have to pretend they buy a car on finance because they've got £100k in the bank in cash which they happen to need for an investment.
Lol. Well, I didn't actually get finance, as I couldn't negotiate a deal to match the bank. The loan Barclays offered was 6.9% APR, car dealership wouldn't budge from 12%, so I went with the loan.

Also, because I can't afford it, I wouldn't buy something new, but would buy something that's low-ish mileage, and maybe has a year warranty left on it. Most of the guys in my job tend to do this, as we take a low mileage car and start putting high mileage on it, and something can quite often go wrong. Thankfully, I get expenses which do help cover the cost of the finance somewhat.

Unfortunately, not all of us are as good as these mad chavtastics who are mega rich.

Edited by xreyuk on Sunday 20th May 23:20


Edited by xreyuk on Sunday 20th May 23:20

jimmy156

3,805 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Sir Bagalot said:
After_Shock said:
Uncle Gueber said:
Because everyone on Ph is a HNWI.
Why commit to a depreciating asset when you can invest your capital for 10-15% return. Then you simply buy vehicle outright.
Why buy it outright being a HNWI, you buy a car for cash for £30k just lost £6k instantly in VAT then depreciation on top, better off leaving the cash in the bank getting a decent return on it and borrowing the money at a low rate. Stupid paying cash for them.
Actually if you buy a car for £30K then £5K of it is VAT, not 6
20% of £30k is £6k...

Trommel

20,528 posts

286 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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After_Shock said:
better off leaving the cash in the bank getting a decent return on it
Good luck with that.

Fox-

13,567 posts

273 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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After_Shock said:
better off leaving the cash in the bank getting a decent return on it and borrowing the money at a low rate. Stupid paying cash for them.
So your bank account pays more interest than the APR on your car finance?

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

185 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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jimmy156 said:
20% of £30k is £6k...
20% vat on £25k is £5k. Add the two together & you get the £30k sale price.

RH

fandango_c

1,991 posts

213 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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jimmy156 said:
Sir Bagalot said:
After_Shock said:
Uncle Gueber said:
Because everyone on Ph is a HNWI.
Why commit to a depreciating asset when you can invest your capital for 10-15% return. Then you simply buy vehicle outright.
Why buy it outright being a HNWI, you buy a car for cash for £30k just lost £6k instantly in VAT then depreciation on top, better off leaving the cash in the bank getting a decent return on it and borrowing the money at a low rate. Stupid paying cash for them.
Actually if you buy a car for £30K then £5K of it is VAT, not 6
20% of £30k is £6k...
And 30k/1.2 is 25k.

Buying a car for 30k includes 5k of VAT.

Edited by fandango_c on Sunday 20th May 23:37

fandango_c

1,991 posts

213 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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daemonoid said:
Sir Bagalot said:
Actually if you buy a car for £30K then £5K of it is VAT, not 6
Been out of the UK for a little while, but has VAT gone down from 20% then?
VAT is still 20% in the UK.