Why is the Ford Puma so cheap?
Why is the Ford Puma so cheap?
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WetPaint

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1,212 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I fancy a Puma and although I'm always happy to pay as little as I can for a car, the general price of Pumas right now seems awfully low.

I was of the impression it is a jolly good car, but the market value has me wondering if they have hit that age where everything is going wrong on them.

Should I be concerned that there are very few over 2k with the average being about 1k, or should I not worry and welcome the cheapness with open arms and dive right in?

(Im after a 1.7, am also aware of the rear arches/cambelt issues)

Rollcage

11,345 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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You have answered your own question wrt arches!

They are plentiful, rust for a pastime and didn't cost much to begin with, hence why they are cheap now.

All the better if you want to buy one, as they are great little cars!

sc0tt

18,279 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I had one and loved it.

Mum then bought a millenium edition with the leather recaro's.

Loved being "on it" in that.

Negative Creep

25,985 posts

254 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I bet they will attract a very healthy premium in years to come

Somnophore

1,364 posts

203 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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The just rust badly and people scrap than because it costs a lot to put right vs price of the car.

farrendahl

1,248 posts

201 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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If I hadn't found the ZT-T at a stupidly good price, I seriously would have entertained a Puma myself. Maybe next time

EDLT

15,421 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Negative Creep said:
I bet they will attract a very healthy premium in years to come
Because there will be hardly any left. hehe

WetPaint

Original Poster:

1,212 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Haha, Ive had a classic mini, im used to rust!

Bangernomics by default then.


Rollcage

11,345 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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WetPaint said:
Haha, Ive had a classic mini, im used to rust!

Bangernomics by default then.
Pattern arches are not available, but the opposite sides of pug 206 front wings are nearly identical in profile.

WetPaint

Original Poster:

1,212 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Rollcage said:
Pattern arches are not available, but the opposite sides of pug 206 front wings are nearly identical in profile.
I appreciate the info, one does have to question how somebody discovered that though!

btsidi

247 posts

258 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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WetPaint said:
Why is the Ford Puma so cheap?
Because it's a 10-15 year old standard Ford?
Most standard cars of that age will go for buttons too IMHO.




k-ink

9,070 posts

206 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Because it's a ford, comes with zero proper rust protection (like galvanising) and will be a rusty heap.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Just what they go for now. Rust is a killer for them, and there are very few of them left that don't already have a healthy tin worm infestation on the rear arches and sills. Good ones do come up every now and again so keep your eyes peeled. I've got a rare rust free one (1.7), paid £1500 for it 6 months ago, 28k on a W plate with Lux pack, 2 lady owners and spent many years in storage. If this had been for sale via a dealer it wouldn't been up at £3k judging by other 'low mileage' ones for sale from dealers.

Mine has a few quirks/small niggly issues that need addressing, but nothing major and nothing to put it off the road. Even with the niggles I still love driving it and it always puts a big cheesy grin on my dial biggrin.

driving

dockertrigger

206 posts

227 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I used to have a V reg Puma 1.4, It wasn't bad to drive, handled well and quite pokey for only a 1.4 but other then that it was crap, The A post is angled as that you can't see properly when coming up to roundabouts, the roofs so low that i kept banging my head (I'm 5ft 11) and everytime you opended the boot in the wet all the water would run in over your shopping.

The wheel arches were rusting on that as well, Think i sold it for £1200 3 years ago and it only had under 80000 miles on it.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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dockertrigger said:
I used to have a V reg Puma 1.4, It wasn't bad to drive, handled well and quite pokey for only a 1.4 but other then that it was crap, The A post is angled as that you can't see properly when coming up to roundabouts, the roofs so low that i kept banging my head (I'm 5ft 11) and everytime you opended the boot in the wet all the water would run in over your shopping.

The wheel arches were rusting on that as well, Think i sold it for £1200 3 years ago and it only had under 80000 miles on it.
Never had any real issues with the A pillar. Yeah it's not the best view when coming up to angled junctions, but I don't think its worse than any other car. Most modern cars now have massive A and C pillars anyway.

I'm 6'3 and have no interior height issues. Are you sure you adjusted the seat down properly? A lot of people don't realise they go up and down as well as forrads and backards.

The water deluge from the boot lid is a pain, but once you've done it once you don't make the mistake again and open it slower in future to give the water to run off into the drainage channels. spin

rog007

5,822 posts

251 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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If you're talking steals, the Racing Puma is an even greater one! Why wouldn't you, just for the summer! I'm tempted back in to one for track days and hill climbs.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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rog007 said:
If you're talking steals, the Racing Puma is an even greater one!
I don't think it is, you are looking at £6k or so for a car that is known to required plenty of TLC and isn't really that quick.

Negative Creep

25,985 posts

254 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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EDLT said:
Negative Creep said:
I bet they will attract a very healthy premium in years to come
Because there will be hardly any left. hehe
Don't underestimate the power of the Old School Ford Scene Tax. Values of Mk.1 & 2 Escorts are now insane, Capris and Cortinas now fetch strong money, Sierras and mk.4 Escorts are on the way up. All seen as disposable transport once........

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

226 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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A number of things make the Puma cheap IMO.

They were cheap when new anyway.

They aren't a TDI that does 60mpg and costs £30 a year to tax (But they can return almost 40 on a run).

They're not big enough to appear practical to most people.

The very last registered ones will be on 03/53 plates but the majority were registered before 2002, making them 10 years old and we all know that vacuous Britain hates not having a sub 3 year old plate on our driveways.

Because of their age and cheapness many have been a bit neglected and need some remedial work to suspension and the engine to keep them running.

They do seem to enjoy oxidisation a little too much for most people (I think rust is just character).

They have an image of being a hairdressers car amongst rough tough men, young insecure men in particular.

Possibly one or two other things too, but for c£1000 if you shop around and don't just settle for an unloved shed then there are bargains to be had. I only looked at one and bought it but it came with a very comprehensive service history a huge pile of receipts including 2 that showed £1800 had been spent on things including the cambelt and the rear beam bushes within the 2500 miles it travelled prior to me buying it for £1050. I could probably have found a cosmetically better car for that money or a bit more, but the small sample I called about had the usual cheap car problem of sketchy history and skinflint owners who use cheap tyres and duck servicing needs.


WetPaint

Original Poster:

1,212 posts

208 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Thats a very comprehensive answer.