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t'I really dont see why there is so much hate for quads from the stuck-up brigade. If it was a noisy hairdryer-powered scooter ridden badly by a chav in scant protective gear you'd all turn the usual blind eye but because it has 4 wheels suddenly its the automotive equivalent of a cross between Hitler and Gaddafi.
I have ridden quads for 15 years, ranging from electric kiddy ones to 55mph sports machines. They really arent dangerous providing you know how to handle them properly. Expecting them to corner like a car with no weight shifting required, then calling them dangerous because they tip over if you do that at any sort of speed, is just ridiculous. Learn to ride one in the correct fashion with the same degree of respect and gradual learning as a motorbike and it will be no more dangerous to your well-being than, say, a cauliflower .
Even at times deliberately riding like a loon (on private land) I have only had one accident in my time and even then it wasnt directly related to my vehicle of choice. They dont require a helmet as they are legally a car, and to be honest in an accident I cant see how you'd be any worse off than the driver of, say, an equally top heavy and exposed small vintage convertible (and I dont see people lambasting MG T-type and Austin 7 drivers for lack of leathers and helmets). So what if chavs do ride them dangerously, they do a lot of stupid things and it's only Darwinism in action. I suspect a lot of the "mach 1 in a 30" is in fact the sort of noisy=fast prejudice that so many on here complain about in "stupid things xxx say.." threads due to the fact that many of them have somewhat fruity exhausts bodged on.
I would quite happily buy a road legal quad tomorrow and use it for commuting, if I had a spare £750-1k, and I'd bet you any money that I'm not instantly killed to death twice, despite what the haters and scaremongers would have you believe.
I have ridden quads for 15 years, ranging from electric kiddy ones to 55mph sports machines. They really arent dangerous providing you know how to handle them properly. Expecting them to corner like a car with no weight shifting required, then calling them dangerous because they tip over if you do that at any sort of speed, is just ridiculous. Learn to ride one in the correct fashion with the same degree of respect and gradual learning as a motorbike and it will be no more dangerous to your well-being than, say, a cauliflower .
Even at times deliberately riding like a loon (on private land) I have only had one accident in my time and even then it wasnt directly related to my vehicle of choice. They dont require a helmet as they are legally a car, and to be honest in an accident I cant see how you'd be any worse off than the driver of, say, an equally top heavy and exposed small vintage convertible (and I dont see people lambasting MG T-type and Austin 7 drivers for lack of leathers and helmets). So what if chavs do ride them dangerously, they do a lot of stupid things and it's only Darwinism in action. I suspect a lot of the "mach 1 in a 30" is in fact the sort of noisy=fast prejudice that so many on here complain about in "stupid things xxx say.." threads due to the fact that many of them have somewhat fruity exhausts bodged on.
I would quite happily buy a road legal quad tomorrow and use it for commuting, if I had a spare £750-1k, and I'd bet you any money that I'm not instantly killed to death twice, despite what the haters and scaremongers would have you believe.
Edited by mat777 on Tuesday 29th May 21:42
Matt I'm far from stuck up, I base my opinion on the observations I have witnessed and from what I've seen wether right or wrong is open to debate, But from what I've witnessed on the road the guy who has a genuine interest in off roading on a quad and has all the gear tends to ride a damn sight safer than the t-shirt wearing, cap wearing balloon who has complete disregard to others by racing around and jeopardising his own safety by not 'gearing up'
Sorry if you disagree but gearing up be it on a bike or 'quad' even is something I'm a very strong advocate of.
Sorry if you disagree but gearing up be it on a bike or 'quad' even is something I'm a very strong advocate of.
I wasnt having a go at your point so much as the other two wet blankets who immediately condemned them as horrible, dangerous, poor, etc etc with nothing to back up the accusation. I guess I would fall into your first category of riders, but if the second category want to ride as they do is its fine by me - less chav idiots in the gene pool
mat777 said:
I wasnt having a go at your point so much as the other two wet blankets who immediately condemned them as horrible, dangerous, poor, etc etc with nothing to back up the accusation. I guess I would fall into your first category of riders, but if the second category
want to ride as they do is its fine by me - less chav idiots in the gene pool
Fair enough guv.want to ride as they do is its fine by me - less chav idiots in the gene pool
Look like a lot of fun but for me like a bike I'd have to have the right kit.
mat777 said:
I would quite happily buy a road legal quad tomorrow and use it for commuting, if I had a spare £750-1k, and I'd bet you any money that I'm not instantly killed to death twice, despite what the haters and scaremongers would have you believe.
If you were, how would we collect?To me it seems that a quad offers all of the disadvantages of a motorbike (exposed to elements), with none of the advantages (can manoeuvre round traffic).
Blimey. I agree with Mat777 on something.
Just going out for a walk, I might be some time...
I can't be bothered to argue the toss with people who use supposition to form contrary opinions to those with experience, but I've owned 3 quads, all road legal, all used on the road occasionally. Yes they're inherently compromised, flawed if you will. No you're not risking certain death by riding them, provided you're not a bell end. Why you'd want to ride them on the road is beyond me, it's about as much fun as unicycling without a saddle after 10 minutes, but off road they're amazing fun.
Just going out for a walk, I might be some time...
I can't be bothered to argue the toss with people who use supposition to form contrary opinions to those with experience, but I've owned 3 quads, all road legal, all used on the road occasionally. Yes they're inherently compromised, flawed if you will. No you're not risking certain death by riding them, provided you're not a bell end. Why you'd want to ride them on the road is beyond me, it's about as much fun as unicycling without a saddle after 10 minutes, but off road they're amazing fun.
Edited by Stu R on Tuesday 29th May 23:15
A mate has one for commuting (5 miles, all town driving). He has all the safety gear (you'd be silly no to).
No need for a bike test.
Great MPG.
Will do 80mph on the motorway.
Leaves the driveway for something more fruity.
Great fun at below the speed limit.
Also one of the few people who could get to work in the yearly 2" of snow.
No need for a bike test.
Great MPG.
Will do 80mph on the motorway.
Leaves the driveway for something more fruity.
Great fun at below the speed limit.
Also one of the few people who could get to work in the yearly 2" of snow.
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