Young girls moving directly to Outside Lane
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I don't know if just me, but lately I've noticed an increasing amount of young girls, aged around the 18-25 bracket, in the outside lane.
Plently of time to pull into the inside lane (Dual carriageways), sometimes the inside lane is clear as far as the eye can see.
Some look petrified, others look aggressive and stony faced.
Seeing it more and more.
I got a bit wound up by one on the A90 yesterday, a girl in a new white Megan coupe refused to pull in so I just cruised on the inside (there were no cars on the inside lane or infront, only the two of us).
As I overtook (on the inside), she got upset and accelerated. Then, when I hit passed her she flashed her lights like I had done something wrong.
Are these girls somehow getting through their driving tests in ways other than their understanding of road rules?
Plently of time to pull into the inside lane (Dual carriageways), sometimes the inside lane is clear as far as the eye can see.
Some look petrified, others look aggressive and stony faced.
Seeing it more and more.
I got a bit wound up by one on the A90 yesterday, a girl in a new white Megan coupe refused to pull in so I just cruised on the inside (there were no cars on the inside lane or infront, only the two of us).
As I overtook (on the inside), she got upset and accelerated. Then, when I hit passed her she flashed her lights like I had done something wrong.
Are these girls somehow getting through their driving tests in ways other than their understanding of road rules?
Its not just girls. Everyone drives on the right down the Cardiff Link road from junction 33!
If someone comes off a motorway and are turning right 5 miles up the dual carriage they will drive in the right hand lane all the way! And the best is that these right hand lane hoggers on the Link road wait until the last moment to pull off when going left usuually forcing their way infront of the last car!!
If someone comes off a motorway and are turning right 5 miles up the dual carriage they will drive in the right hand lane all the way! And the best is that these right hand lane hoggers on the Link road wait until the last moment to pull off when going left usuually forcing their way infront of the last car!!
Edited by Red111 on Wednesday 30th May 13:28
I've noticed this too.
had a cracker last week, girl in outside lane of A3 at 50mph. face 5 inches from windscreen, eyes like saucers.
Needs to take an exit which isnt actually a sliproad but a junction at 90 degrees to the dual carriageway. When she got near with no signs of slowing down of looking, she swerved across all three lanes and by luck more than anything drove off the exit.
How she didnt crash into anyone or turn the car over Im frankly amazed. her passenger looked totally unfazed!
had a cracker last week, girl in outside lane of A3 at 50mph. face 5 inches from windscreen, eyes like saucers.
Needs to take an exit which isnt actually a sliproad but a junction at 90 degrees to the dual carriageway. When she got near with no signs of slowing down of looking, she swerved across all three lanes and by luck more than anything drove off the exit.
How she didnt crash into anyone or turn the car over Im frankly amazed. her passenger looked totally unfazed!
I had this on the M1 the other day. Young guy in one of those new Fiesta Max-Power things. 70mph in the 3rd lane with no other cars on the same stretch of road (Sunday evening, 8pm-ish). I caught up behind him and he begrudgingly pulled into the middle lane to let me past. As soon as I passed him he took up his place in the 3rd lane and gave me a few flashes of his lights. I wish I could have stopped to have had a chat with him so I could understand why he thought that was proper road discipline. Surely no one has ever taught him to do that.
Yeah, I had another yesterday on the M9, young girl, new Seat Ibiza.
I didn't overtake her in another lane. I was doing a conserve fuel run, just followed, she stayed there, then for no apparent reason pulled into the inside lane, oh ,yes, 200 yards away there was a junction.
She exited at that junction.
Maybe school isn't teaching youngsters their 'left and right' nowadays.
I don't think they're allowed to tell a child when they are wrong, maybe this is the problem.
I didn't overtake her in another lane. I was doing a conserve fuel run, just followed, she stayed there, then for no apparent reason pulled into the inside lane, oh ,yes, 200 yards away there was a junction.
She exited at that junction.
Maybe school isn't teaching youngsters their 'left and right' nowadays.
I don't think they're allowed to tell a child when they are wrong, maybe this is the problem.
Clivew said:
Oh? Please tell me more.
There's no law against undertaking, simple as that. Remember first that the highway code is not law, just a guide. An undertake can be classed as careless/dangerous driving, but there is no law specifically against it. A careful undertake in the above circumstances (so long as there was no speeding, weaving or other bad behaviour) would be impossible to class as careless / dangerous.
Clivew said:
You had done something wrong. Undertaking is illegal.
I don't really understand this. I've had loads of times where I've been in the left lane and suddenly the right lane will come to a halt, while the left lane continues to move freely. In this case I will be overtaking everyone not moving in the right lane, should I stop my car and wait for that lane to get moving again? If not, how is undertaking any more dangerous than that?PumpkinSteve said:
I don't really understand this. I've had loads of times where I've been in the left lane and suddenly the right lane will come to a halt, while the left lane continues to move freely. In this case I will be overtaking everyone not moving in the right lane, should I stop my car and wait for that lane to get moving again? If not, how is undertaking any more dangerous than that?
That'll be filtering, which is fine.Undertaking is illegal. As such, I always filter.
CraigyMc said:
Section 163 point 7 from your own link•only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
If you feel like posting things make sure you are right before you do so. At least give your link a quick read......
I got one of these 'young girls' on my tail last weekend. She was in a fairly new Black Seat Leon, bleached hair, one hand on the top of the wheel and chewing gum. She followed me at a distance of less than 1 metre at 30mph clearly wanting me to go faster. The road had parked cars and traffic islands so it wasn't easier to go faster and certainly not safe to do so.
Since my car wasn't even a month old and I didn't fancy her rear ending me (which was inevitable) I was tyring to illustrate to her just how close she was by moving out for the parked cars later than I normally would. As she only saw them with less than 1 second to spare, she would over-react and have to steering violently. After 3 repeats of this she got the message but decided to overtake on the wrong side of a traffic island around a blind corner.
I caught up with her at the end of the road only to watch her wind down the window and throw a luminous green plastic cup full of drink out of the window and onto the pavement infront of a pedestrian.
I'm sure the world will miss her when she's gone...
Since my car wasn't even a month old and I didn't fancy her rear ending me (which was inevitable) I was tyring to illustrate to her just how close she was by moving out for the parked cars later than I normally would. As she only saw them with less than 1 second to spare, she would over-react and have to steering violently. After 3 repeats of this she got the message but decided to overtake on the wrong side of a traffic island around a blind corner.
I caught up with her at the end of the road only to watch her wind down the window and throw a luminous green plastic cup full of drink out of the window and onto the pavement infront of a pedestrian.
I'm sure the world will miss her when she's gone...
daemonoid said:
There's no law against undertaking, simple as that.
Remember first that the highway code is not law, just a guide. An undertake can be classed as careless/dangerous driving, but there is no law specifically against it. A careful undertake in the above circumstances (so long as there was no speeding, weaving or other bad behaviour) would be impossible to class as careless / dangerous.
Let me add that 'do not' is an advisory in the highway code and 'must not' refers to items with actual laws behind them. And the bits concerning overtaking are 162-169 & 267-269 for motorways. 269 is a good example of the differences in wording - it is illegal to overtake on the hard shoulder, it is inadvisable to undertake.Remember first that the highway code is not law, just a guide. An undertake can be classed as careless/dangerous driving, but there is no law specifically against it. A careful undertake in the above circumstances (so long as there was no speeding, weaving or other bad behaviour) would be impossible to class as careless / dangerous.
oj121 said:
CraigyMc said:
Section 163 point 7 from your own link•only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
If you feel like posting things make sure you are right before you do so. At least give your link a quick read......
Cheers.
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