Which car, MG or Hyundai?
Discussion
A new MOT & recent service means it's time to change my E39 BMW, had it 5 years, time for something else.
Budget restricted after house purchase at only £1500 - £1800.
At the minute my interest is engaged with either an MG ZT or ZS 180/190 V6, or...
Hyundai Coupe, 2.7 V6
I'm finding more potential faults with the MG's - VIS, Inlet manifold valves, timing belts, some common electric issues & clutch problems...
Far fewer faults with the Hyundai, perhaps electric gremlins, sunroof. But does that make it the better choice?
So one or t'other?
Thanks.
Budget restricted after house purchase at only £1500 - £1800.
At the minute my interest is engaged with either an MG ZT or ZS 180/190 V6, or...
Hyundai Coupe, 2.7 V6
I'm finding more potential faults with the MG's - VIS, Inlet manifold valves, timing belts, some common electric issues & clutch problems...
Far fewer faults with the Hyundai, perhaps electric gremlins, sunroof. But does that make it the better choice?
So one or t'other?
Thanks.
Just out of interest what has made you narrow it down to those 2 options?
As far as I am aware the MG timing belt is a big expensive job seem to remember £900 being mentioned but coming from a BMW both of your choices are going to feel cheap and plasticy (if that is even a word).
I looked at both while trying to find SWMBO a new car and couldnt have lived with either I dont think.
ETA MG also has hydraulic clutch that makes it an expensive repair I think
As far as I am aware the MG timing belt is a big expensive job seem to remember £900 being mentioned but coming from a BMW both of your choices are going to feel cheap and plasticy (if that is even a word).
I looked at both while trying to find SWMBO a new car and couldnt have lived with either I dont think.
ETA MG also has hydraulic clutch that makes it an expensive repair I think
I was/am interested in the Hyundai Coupe. Looks good value, coupe shape, but I really want a 6'er after the BMW.
The MG's came up as an alternative (in budget) 6 cylinder that I had not considered. Prefer the ZT saloon over the hatch, but if a decent ZS came up..I'd consider It.
The MG's came up as an alternative (in budget) 6 cylinder that I had not considered. Prefer the ZT saloon over the hatch, but if a decent ZS came up..I'd consider It.
- Yes, heard belts expensive job, clutch poor & water pump falls apart. BUT, there are those who swear by them...if you can find a good one!
Edited by Waynester on Saturday 2nd June 05:59
I can only comment on the MG. Find one that has had the belts changed and the thermostat housing sorted then you should be onto a winner. Even better if you get one that has had the clutch sorted as well. The belts is a £500 job not £900 as mentioned above and that includes the water pump Master cylinder and slave cylinder is £750.
They are great cars, good ride, nice handling for a big car and enough power to keep you interested. I have a ZT-T which has a huge boot.
You should be able to pick up a decent one for your budget, just make sure the big jobs have been done.
ETA mine is the 190 with the KV6 engine for info.
They are great cars, good ride, nice handling for a big car and enough power to keep you interested. I have a ZT-T which has a huge boot.
You should be able to pick up a decent one for your budget, just make sure the big jobs have been done.
ETA mine is the 190 with the KV6 engine for info.
Edited by FIK on Saturday 2nd June 14:22
calibrax said:
Easy? Don't you have to remove the gearbox to fit one of them? which makes it "not easy"...
You don't need to remove the gearbox. The slave cylinder is bolted to the outside. Couldn't really be easier. That said, it's not a brilliant design being made of plastic. There are metal replacements available. I didn't have time to source one. The plastic one is fine.The master cylinder is a bit trickier, as you have to twist the whole assembly about 70 deg to remove/refit from the bulkhead. There's not much room in the V6 engine bay.
FIK said:
I can only comment on the MG. Find one that has had the belts changed and the thermostat housing sorted then you should be onto a winner. Even better if you get one that has had the clutch sorted as well. The belts is a £500 job not £900 as mentioned above and that includes the water pump Master cylinder and slave cylinder is £750.
Sorry to say that if you paid £750 to have the clutch hydraulics changed on a ZS you were massively ripped off. Replacing either component is a trivial job, it should be no more than around 1/2 hours labour for someone who's done it before - two nuts hold the master cylinder in place and the slave simply clips into a metal bracket. If the bracket needs to be changed (they do crack) then it's three bolts, and access is not difficult.The clutch itself is no more difficult to change than most FWD cars. Obviously it involves removing the driveshafts and gearbox so it's not a quick job, but should be no more than 4 hours of labour. A genuine MG clutch kit is expensive (about £300), but a good quality AP clutch kit can be hand for around £170.
Budleigh said:
The Hyundai. It's nicer to look at, and neither of the engines seem to be terribly athletic in stock form, so the rest is much of a muchness.
You have surely never driven either of these cars. The ZS is the quicker car by a useful margin and has the better handling, though the Coupe isn't a bad handling car at all. Neither return great economy, but again the ZS is a little better, which makes the mediocre performance of the Hyundai that bit harder to swallow. However, I'd have to say the interior of the Coupe is a notch above that of the ZS (at least in the non-face lifted ZS that I had).Edited by Mr2Mike on Sunday 3rd June 17:14
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