MOT question
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theironduke

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6,995 posts

209 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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If you MOT a car before its due, for example say today but the car has an MOT til August and it fails todays MOT does that invalidate the one it had/has till August?

I was hoping to buy a car tomorrow which has an MOT till August and out of good will the seller MOT'd it today but it failed. Now i'm not too worried as he's going to knock the price down but it's 150 miles away.... Does it effectively have no MOT now? ergo i can't drive it home?

Snowboy

8,028 posts

172 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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As far as I know the old MOT is still valid.
It’s a common ‘trick’ to get the MOT done a few weeks in advance so you can find any problems.
IIRC they can even post date the new MOT to the end date of the old MOT if it’s within a few weeks.

The only exception to this is if the car isn’t road worthy, where the MOT place can (or must?) stop you driving away.

V88Dicky

7,359 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Yes. 'Todays' MOT failure will stand.

Sorry.

toosexyformycar

92 posts

164 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Snowboy said:
As far as I know the old MOT is still valid.
It’s a common ‘trick’ to get the MOT done a few weeks in advance so you can find any problems.
IIRC they can even post date the new MOT to the end date of the old MOT if it’s within a few weeks.

The only exception to this is if the car isn’t road worthy, where the MOT place can (or must?) stop you driving away.
Id like some clarification on this question. As if it doesnt invalidate a previous mot id be using this as a cheap way of checking whats wrong with a car.

However how on earth would a garage refuse to let me drive my car away? I think id end up fighting if a garage told me they wouldnt let me have my car back.

theironduke

Original Poster:

6,995 posts

209 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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doogz said:
V88Dicky said:
Yes. 'Todays' MOT failure will stand.

Sorry.
Sorry because you're wrong? tongue out
So who is right?

Krikkit

27,727 posts

202 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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The old MOT is still valid until its expiry date, but regardless the car is not roadworthy. Get pulled by the BiB or VOSA on your way home and you won't have a leg to stand on. How bad is the failure?

HustleRussell

25,953 posts

181 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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They can add the remaining time on the old certificate onto the new one, up to a maximum of three months.
i.e. if your MOT is due in three months, you can present the car for the test. if it passes you'll be given an MOT which won't expire for 15 months.

AtticusFinch

28,432 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Why not try re-taxing the car online (don't press confirm) they will check the MOT

Shaw Tarse

31,820 posts

224 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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HustleRussell said:
They can add the remaining time on the old certificate onto the new one, up to a maximum of three months.
i.e. if your MOT is due in three months, you can present the car for the test. if it passes you'll be given an MOT which won't expire for 15 months.
3 months?
I didn't know that, I thought it was one?

Gruber

6,313 posts

235 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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HustleRussell said:
They can add the remaining time on the old certificate onto the new one, up to a maximum of three months.
i.e. if your MOT is due in three months, you can present the car for the test. if it passes you'll be given an MOT which won't expire for 15 months.
nono One month, not three.

Yuxi

650 posts

210 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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HustleRussell said:
They can add the remaining time on the old certificate onto the new one, up to a maximum of three months.
i.e. if your MOT is due in three months, you can present the car for the test. if it passes you'll be given an MOT which won't expire for 15 months.
4 weeks, not 3 months

Gareth79

8,621 posts

267 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Ha ha, good old MOT topics, without fail all the old myths come up.

We haven't had "you don't need a spare tyre for the MOT, but if you do then it must be legal" yet smile


mad4amanda

2,410 posts

185 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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It used to be a max of 31 days :
here it is:
How soon can I have an MOT test?

MOT tests can be carried out on your car up to one month prior to the expiry date of an existing UK MOT certificate provided that a current MOT certificate is presented to the examiner at the time of the test.

jagracer

8,248 posts

257 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Gareth79 said:
Ha ha, good old MOT topics, without fail all the old myths come up.

We haven't had "you don't need a spare tyre for the MOT, but if you do then it must be legal" yet smile
Correct, you don't need a spare tyre for the MOT, but if you do then it must be legal, or not. There how's that. smile

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

185 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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And this on the failure question:
MOT Failure Question

A question that is often asked follows:

If car fails MOT is the old test certificate still valid until its expiry date?

Well the answer does not seem to be found on any of the government information about the MOT test, so we emailed VOSA with this question and this is their response:

"An MOT certificate is valid until its expiry date. However if your vehicle fails a test before this date and you do not rectify the defects then you are driving an unroadworthy vehicle which is an offence."

So to put this into context if your car fails the MOT due to illegal tyres then you are driving an unroadworthy vehicle, you were driving unroadworthy vehicle before the MOT, and you will be driving an unroadworthy vehicle until you get a new tyre. Therefore at anytime if caught you would be subject to a £2500 fine and 3 points per illegal tyre.

However once you get a new tyre your car is roadworthy and the old MOT is still valid until its expiry date, thus you can then drive your car again and get it retested to your timescale, with out worrying about driving without an MOT.

This is a very good reason to book your Mot early and give yourself plenty of time to book a retest if needed.



Vipers

33,367 posts

249 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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theironduke said:
If you MOT a car before its due, for example say today but the car has an MOT til August and it fails todays MOT does that invalidate the one it had/has till August?

I was hoping to buy a car tomorrow which has an MOT till August and out of good will the seller MOT'd it today but it failed. Now i'm not too worried as he's going to knock the price down but it's 150 miles away.... Does it effectively have no MOT now? ergo i can't drive it home?
If it failed, then the vehicle is not roadworthy, so I cant see the other MOT being valid.




smile

littleredrooster

6,081 posts

217 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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This question is raised almost every month in SP&L and gets the same number of utterly wrong replies just as it has here. Why do posters just guess the correct answer when faced with a technical question?

If you don't know the definitive answer, STFU.

A valid MOT remains to be a valid MOT. Whether or not the car is roadworthy is another matter, but that could happen irrespective of whether it's been taken for an MOT or not.

MOTs can be for 13 months if the car is presented for an early test.

toosexyformycar

92 posts

164 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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littleredrooster said:
This question is raised almost every month in SP&L and gets the same number of utterly wrong replies just as it has here. Why do posters just guess the correct answer when faced with a technical question?

If you don't know the definitive answer, STFU.

A valid MOT remains to be a valid MOT. Whether or not the car is roadworthy is another matter, but that could happen irrespective of whether it's been taken for an MOT or not.

MOTs can be for 13 months if the car is presented for an early test.
Thanks, so can garages impoundnyour car if they fail it?

Shaw Tarse

31,820 posts

224 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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toosexyformycar said:
littleredrooster said:
This question is raised almost every month in SP&L and gets the same number of utterly wrong replies just as it has here. Why do posters just guess the correct answer when faced with a technical question?

If you don't know the definitive answer, STFU.

A valid MOT remains to be a valid MOT. Whether or not the car is roadworthy is another matter, but that could happen irrespective of whether it's been taken for an MOT or not.

MOTs can be for 13 months if the car is presented for an early test.
Thanks, so can garages impoundnyour car if they fail it?
No.

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

185 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Useful info here : http://www.mottest.net/ from where the info above was posted from

as can be seen the VOSA answer is that the certificate remains valid however unless rectified you could be prosecuted for driving an unroadworthy vehicle which is a different offence.