((bhp/tonne) x mpg)) / price
((bhp/tonne) x mpg)) / price
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goodlife

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1,852 posts

283 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Looking for an econimic commuter car with a bit of poke, but price sensitive. Sound familar?

Creating a shortlist I keep drifting towards a 4-5 year old 320d/520d because they offer incredible mpg, not bad bhp and are under £9k these days. But that got me thinking whether there was a maths equation that could help shortlist potentials.

I'm thinking of taking bhp per tonne multiplied by mpg, then divided by price (new or second hand, doesn't matter).

((bhp/tonne) x mpg)) / price where the higher the number, the better the fit

eg. for 520d:
((177/1.585) x 48) / 8500 = 0.63

or Bugatti Veryon
((1001/1.888) x 16) / 1000000 = 0.008

Does anyone have the available data to run this through every car ever made to what's top??? smile

Byard

539 posts

198 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Heres my car, just for the fun of it

(250/1.485) * 42 / 4000 = 1.7676767676767676767676767676768

p4blo32

171 posts

167 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Interesting smile

350Z: ((280/1.5) * 28) / 8000 = 0.65

kambites

70,854 posts

245 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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By that measure, you just want something very, very cheap and reasonably efficient. You'll easily find something which scores more than 10 if you look around.

steviejasp

1,646 posts

189 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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My Cerbera......(411/1.2)x25/15000=0.57

Bargain! No depreciation!!

Edited by steviejasp on Friday 8th June 17:48

joe_90

4,206 posts

255 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Old clio cup

((172/1.05)* 40 )/ 1500 = 4.36

kambites

70,854 posts

245 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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joe_90 said:
Old clio cup

(172/1052)*1500 = 245
You paid £1 for it and it does 1500mpg?

joe_90

4,206 posts

255 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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kambites said:
joe_90 said:
Old clio cup

(172/1052)*1500 = 245
You paid £1 for it and it does 1500mpg?
haha.. no, i missed one step out, went back and edited it smile

DonnyMac

3,634 posts

227 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Ariel Atom ((300bhp/0.5tonne)*30mpg)/~£35,000= 0.514

It's got to be on the list surely driving

V88Dicky

7,362 posts

207 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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(149/1.237) * 45 / 1800 = 3.011


2001 Toyota Avensis 2.0vvt-i

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ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

264 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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A quick look in the classifieds shows Volvo T5's available around £800 giving a ~3.9.

It's a good idea, but like all equations that have no 'nice' factor it's not going to work frown

Didn't stop me doing my cars though smile

GT - 0.066
Noble - 0.34
Alfa - 0.27


goodlife

Original Poster:

1,852 posts

283 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Ok, so the equation was flawed in 2 ways (and many many more I'm sure). Lets take Price and some sort of brand power for now.

Price: let's assume the car has to worth over £2k, else it's likely to be a piece of rubbish and not be able to do the commute part reliably.

Brand power: we'll add another subjective element, on a scale of zero to 5, with 5 being the most wanted and 0 being a Trabant.

Also on bhp, you need to use the combined figure.

So revised equation is

(((bhp/tonne) x mpg) / price) x Brand Power

kambites

70,854 posts

245 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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How about this:

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3965818.htm

(170/1.2)*25/675 = 5.3; this being PH, BMW has got to be at least a 4 so that makes about 20 or 25 once you add that. smile

DonnyMac

3,634 posts

227 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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DonnyMac said:
Ariel Atom ((300bhp/0.5tonne)*30mpg)/~£35,000= 0.514

It's got to be on the list surely driving
*5 = 2.57

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Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

182 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Saab 9-3 Aero with stage 1 tune

((250/1.7)x36)/4000=1.324

Brand rating of 4? 5.294

RH

Vitorio

4,296 posts

167 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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I think i just won the thread

((55/0.735)*47)/350=10.04

A '96 Fiat cinquecento sporting. Fuel consumption was a fairly conservative guess backed up by spritmonitor.de. Also the price was as low because of a headgasket failure, but i fixed that myself for just parts cost, and while doing that swapped in a better camshaft/throttlebody for added HP.

john2443

6,503 posts

235 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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205 diesel, £500, 55mpg, rating 8.8!

Probably not the answer you want to get!

edit - or Metro diesel, probably an even better figure!

Astra Dan

1,841 posts

208 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Of course this is relative:

My GTE:

(156/1(x36))/£175

32.09.

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Raize

1,476 posts

203 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Porsche 924...

(125/1.040) * 34 (apparently) / 650

= 6.287... not so bad.

I think we need some co-efficients for this formula, however.

Edited by Raize on Friday 8th June 20:18

Synchromesh

2,428 posts

190 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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'03 Volvo S60 T5

((bhp/tonne) x mpg)) / price
(250/1.44) * 30 / 2750 = 1.89

(((bhp/tonne) x mpg) / price) x Brand Power
((250/1.44) * 30 / 2750) X 3 = 5.68

ETA: The 'revised' equation.

Edited by Synchromesh on Friday 8th June 21:15