I want a drift project.
I want a drift project.
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St. Anger

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1,125 posts

201 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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I drifting isn't very PH, and I must outline from the beginning that I get a huge amount of enjoyment hooning a grippy car properly on Pistonheads runs - I don't condone, nor have any intention of sliding about on public roads.

After watching numerous videos on youtube this afternoon of people sliding cars around racing tracks making lots of smoke and noise, I've decided I need some of that in my life. hehe

So, I've spoken to a mate who would potentially be interested in joining the venture and starting our own wee project and am now starting to make a shortlist of suitable cars. The plan is to have it stripped out, caged, harnessed and probably turbocharged, all the while remembering that neither myself, nor any of my mates, have much experience of drifting other than a few daft moments in my MX5 - so with that in mind, cheap and easily interchangable panels would probably be a good idea!

The project would be track-only, with budget of £1000 max for the car - cheaper the better though!

If anyone has any thoughts or would like to add to my shortlist, then please feel free. So far I've got;

  • BMW e36
Pros: good looks, decent power to start with, pretty safe, cheap to buy, generally quite reliable.
Cons: price and availablity of replacement parts

  • 200SX/S13
Pros: huge aftermarket for parts, a popular choice in the drifting world so I'd imagine a lot of help readily available, easy bolt on/bolt off panels(?)
Cons: hard to find one which hasn't already been molested, rust, early ones apparently have pretty unreliable engines(?)

  • Old Merc
Pros and cons more or less the same as the BMW!




gsd2000

11,515 posts

203 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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I know a few people who drift e36 BMW very well pay around 350 for the car, weld the diff ,strip the interior and drift it without issues

wicz

119 posts

192 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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have a few mates who are into drifting and all but one has a E36, they are the way to go. Cost and availability of replacement parts shouldnt be real issues

S13's are good but you will end many drift day early and go home on the back of a truck

Edited by wicz on Friday 8th June 18:06

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

218 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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ls400 with supra manual gearbox biggrin

St. Anger

Original Poster:

1,125 posts

201 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Was driving home today and passed a conveniently place e36 in a trade center. hehe

It's a 1.8 4 door version in white with some rusty sills and rubbish interior. Was only £600 though, so going back for a test drive tomorrow!

XitUp

7,690 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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V6 Omegas are pretty cheap.

samdale

2,860 posts

204 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Unless you particularly want to do all the work yourself (which personally I want to when I find a suitable track car) then it might be easier and cheaper in the long run to buy a car where the work's been done for you.

If you just want to get out and drift, something like This?

Crease

583 posts

189 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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have a look at mine! as you can see, drifting isnt that popular here due to the lack of replies!

http://pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&amp...

killed this in the end, i must get another drifter soon! loadsa fun and good for learning car control!

do it!

St. Anger

Original Poster:

1,125 posts

201 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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Crease said:
have a look at mine! as you can see, drifting isnt that popular here due to the lack of replies!

http://pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&amp...

killed this in the end, i must get another drifter soon! loadsa fun and good for learning car control!

do it!
Good read, thanks for that. thumbup

Out of interest, how did you end up killing it? hehe

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

275 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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St. Anger said:
Was driving home today and passed a conveniently place e36 in a trade center. hehe

It's a 1.8 4 door version in white with some rusty sills and rubbish interior. Was only £600 though, so going back for a test drive tomorrow!
Why go for the least powerful engine option to play at "McDonalds car park antics"?

Olivera

8,337 posts

259 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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St. Anger said:
Was driving home today and passed a conveniently place e36 in a trade center. hehe

It's a 1.8 4 door version in white with some rusty sills and rubbish interior. Was only £600 though, so going back for a test drive tomorrow!
A 1.8 E36 lacks power, which will make drifting in the dry pretty damn difficult. You'll continually have to bounce it off the rev limiter in 1st/2nd and violently dump the clutch, or put the smallest rear tyres you can find on the rear at 80psi. Oh and if you do the latter expect the rear bodywork/bumpers to get blown off when the wheel pops biggrin

I chipped in recently with a mate to purchase a £565 E36 328i coupe. Needed a few things fixed including a new clutch, waterpump and thermostat. Thankfully though it drifted well on it's first outing a a week ago, using 12 tyres in the process! Note that without a hydraulic handbrake even a 328 requires pretty violent clutch dumps to get the rear out in 2nd, so try and get a 325 or 328 if possible.

Avoid very cheap 200sx's as I've been told the engines don't usually make it to the end of their first outing...

The Nur

9,168 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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You can get a 328 for not a lot more...

rottie102

4,033 posts

204 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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BMW E36 is the way to go.

Or more leftfield - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Soarer-4-0-v8-UZZ...

Crease

583 posts

189 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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funnily enough, the drifting killed it.

she was an ex taxi with almost 180k on it, more play in the steering wheel than you could shake a stick at (almost 90deg turn of the wheel before anything happened, despite tighting up the shaft)
killed the shocks and various other things, plus the cost of having it taxed MOTEd and insured for 1 day a month use was a bit much in my circumstances then, aswell as pembrey being a couple of hours drive away

it wasnt a nice car to drive on the road either with the welded diff, stripped out interior, steering wheel play and side exit straight through!

granted, it was only a 2.0 and i had to have the tyres up around 60psi, didnt leave 2nd gear, but it was capable, slight dip on the clutch, throw it in and the old girl used to go sideways lovely,

if you are looking to do it, try and buy something cheap, if its not for road use then maybe one without test. volvos, bmw, jags, anything will do

lightness is key in underpowered cars, no interior whatsoever in the e34, you'd be suprised how much the seats/doorcards/carpets etc all add up too!

i chopped the door skins out too in the end smile

its worth having a word with your local indy tyre place too, i bagged a few tyres off my local one for free, as you only need scrap ones for skidding, youd be suprised at how long they last!

most of all, enjoy it!

dtrump

2,126 posts

211 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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merc with nissan motor ftw

thumbup x2

airportparking

1,314 posts

182 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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Well that LS 400 posted earlier is on £350 no reserve and its MOT, must say I am very tempted


http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=2...

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

218 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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Based on the fun the LWB Tranny flatbed was having on Friday as I followed him - Sir I salute you - across various roundabouts, I would recommend one of them. They drift beautifully in a slow progressive manner.

wackojacko

8,581 posts

210 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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St. Anger said:
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  • BMW e36
Pros: good looks, decent power to start with, pretty safe, cheap to buy, generally quite reliable.
Cons: price and availablity of replacement parts
Think you need to research E36's a little more.



Spares are more than plentiful hence why so many people use themm as track cars etc.


What ever you go for with that money I'd keep it N.a rather than a cheap turbo car..... it will go bang. . . quickly.