STAY CLEAR OF ESPACE DRIVERS
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I am afraid to say that I have just experienced the worst display of driving on the public road in all my years on the road. There is probably worse still to come as fortunately my quick reactions saved myself and others from a VERY nasty accident.
Followed a middle aged (overweight) male driver of a grey J reg Renault Espace doing between 35 and 40mph on a wide and twisting B'road on the way back from the Gym earlier today (anyone in the Basingstoke area you have been warned). I remember thinking - I haven't seen one of those in ages, any my doesn't it look clean considering the recent mud/bad weather/flooding we have had recently. I should point out I have no problem with people bumbling along at this speed if that's what they are comfortable with. I remained a safe distance behind until a cross view opened up of the next straight and bend (LH) and began to give it the beans in 3rd staying to the left as I built up some speed to overtake. Glanced in my mirror to check for any bikers doing warp 9 and pulled out with a 15-20mph speed difference. As soon as he saw me on the other side of the road he pulled onto the wrong side of the road himself forcing me to slam the anchors on, if I hadn't taken this action I would be writing this from a field. He then pulls in and as I am still on the wrong side of the road I complete the overtake with a lot of horn blowing and hand gestures.
I then slow to his pace (40mph) in an unsuccessful attempt to memorize his number plate and report him to the police for dangerous driving, not surprising I am tailgated until I turn off and he bids me farewell with a friendly toot on his horn. (French horns -pun not intended- are hilarious sounding btw)
Rant over.
Followed a middle aged (overweight) male driver of a grey J reg Renault Espace doing between 35 and 40mph on a wide and twisting B'road on the way back from the Gym earlier today (anyone in the Basingstoke area you have been warned). I remember thinking - I haven't seen one of those in ages, any my doesn't it look clean considering the recent mud/bad weather/flooding we have had recently. I should point out I have no problem with people bumbling along at this speed if that's what they are comfortable with. I remained a safe distance behind until a cross view opened up of the next straight and bend (LH) and began to give it the beans in 3rd staying to the left as I built up some speed to overtake. Glanced in my mirror to check for any bikers doing warp 9 and pulled out with a 15-20mph speed difference. As soon as he saw me on the other side of the road he pulled onto the wrong side of the road himself forcing me to slam the anchors on, if I hadn't taken this action I would be writing this from a field. He then pulls in and as I am still on the wrong side of the road I complete the overtake with a lot of horn blowing and hand gestures.
I then slow to his pace (40mph) in an unsuccessful attempt to memorize his number plate and report him to the police for dangerous driving, not surprising I am tailgated until I turn off and he bids me farewell with a friendly toot on his horn. (French horns -pun not intended- are hilarious sounding btw)
Rant over.
GTiFrank said:
I am afraid to say that I have just experienced the worst display of driving on the public road in all my years on the road. There is probably worse still to come as fortunately my quick reactions saved myself and others from a VERY nasty accident.
Followed a middle aged (overweight) male driver of a grey J reg Renault Espace doing between 35 and 40mph on a wide and twisting B'road on the way back from the Gym earlier today (anyone in the Basingstoke area you have been warned). I remember thinking - I haven't seen one of those in ages, any my doesn't it look clean considering the recent mud/bad weather/flooding we have had recently. I should point out I have no problem with people bumbling along at this speed if that's what they are comfortable with. I remained a safe distance behind until a cross view opened up of the next straight and bend (LH) and began to give it the beans in 3rd staying to the left as I built up some speed to overtake. Glanced in my mirror to check for any bikers doing warp 9 and pulled out with a 15-20mph speed difference. As soon as he saw me on the other side of the road he pulled onto the wrong side of the road himself forcing me to slam the anchors on, if I hadn't taken this action I would be writing this from a field. He then pulls in and as I am still on the wrong side of the road I complete the overtake with a lot of horn blowing and hand gestures.
I then slow to his pace (40mph) in an unsuccessful attempt to memorize his number plate and report him to the police for dangerous driving, not surprising I am tailgated until I turn off and he bids me farewell with a friendly toot on his horn. (French horns -pun not intended- are hilarious sounding btw)
Rant over.
Also experienced TWO similar incidents last weekend Followed a middle aged (overweight) male driver of a grey J reg Renault Espace doing between 35 and 40mph on a wide and twisting B'road on the way back from the Gym earlier today (anyone in the Basingstoke area you have been warned). I remember thinking - I haven't seen one of those in ages, any my doesn't it look clean considering the recent mud/bad weather/flooding we have had recently. I should point out I have no problem with people bumbling along at this speed if that's what they are comfortable with. I remained a safe distance behind until a cross view opened up of the next straight and bend (LH) and began to give it the beans in 3rd staying to the left as I built up some speed to overtake. Glanced in my mirror to check for any bikers doing warp 9 and pulled out with a 15-20mph speed difference. As soon as he saw me on the other side of the road he pulled onto the wrong side of the road himself forcing me to slam the anchors on, if I hadn't taken this action I would be writing this from a field. He then pulls in and as I am still on the wrong side of the road I complete the overtake with a lot of horn blowing and hand gestures.
I then slow to his pace (40mph) in an unsuccessful attempt to memorize his number plate and report him to the police for dangerous driving, not surprising I am tailgated until I turn off and he bids me farewell with a friendly toot on his horn. (French horns -pun not intended- are hilarious sounding btw)
Rant over.
Ram him into the scenery then he'll have to stop!
I'd love for him to try to explain his actions of swerving in front of a legally overtaking vehicle!
Of course self preservation always kicks in and we let these mouth breathers continue with their behaviour.
I'll bet he'll be telling people about the dangerous vehicle he encountered today as well!
I'd love for him to try to explain his actions of swerving in front of a legally overtaking vehicle!
Of course self preservation always kicks in and we let these mouth breathers continue with their behaviour.
I'll bet he'll be telling people about the dangerous vehicle he encountered today as well!
I had a similar thing happen a few weeks ago, clear stretch of road with a roundabout at the end of it, I overtook the car in front of me at the time, perfectly safe manoeuvre no problem at all. As I catch up to the car that was further up the road approaching the roundabout he decides to slam the brakes on and drop down to 20mph as I see him looking in the rearview mirror. Go into the lane I need as I come upto the roundabout and I get a blast of the horn, all for commiting a safe overtake on a car behind and catching him up due to him being under the speed limit anyway!!
Needless to say I gave him a wave to show my appreciation at how concerned he was for my safety on the road. t
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Needless to say I gave him a wave to show my appreciation at how concerned he was for my safety on the road. t
t. soad said:
Sounds like one from the speed kills brigade - they hate to be overtaken.
I've noticed that there seem to be quite a few of the the "swerve and accelerate to block overtaking to make the roads a safer place" kind of vigilanty speed enforcement types on the roads these days. There are few more dangerous on the roads than themselves.
Had something similar happen over the weekend. I was on a very twisty b road and the 3rd car in the queue the car at front was only doing 30 mph which i could understand. We get to a very long straight with good visibility and the Zafira in front pulls out to overtake snd i follow him out. He completes the overtake and brakes so i decide to overtake him aswell and as i pull alongside he jinks towards my car making all sorts of gestures i complete the overtake and then the good old light show started. Dont see what the problem was there was plenty of room for the overtake to happen.
CraigZR said:
Had something similar happen over the weekend. I was on a very twisty b road and the 3rd car in the queue the car at front was only doing 30 mph which i could understand. We get to a very long straight with good visibility and the Zafira in front pulls out to overtake snd i follow him out. He completes the overtake and brakes so i decide to overtake him aswell and as i pull alongside he jinks towards my car making all sorts of gestures i complete the overtake and then the good old light show started. Dont see what the problem was there was plenty of room for the overtake to happen.
Do you also get them indicating into your lane as well in order to delay the overtake and make you st-your-pants? fking s.Negative Creep said:
freecar said:
Ram him into the scenery then he'll have to stop!
I'd love for him to try to explain his actions of swerving in front of a legally overtaking vehicle!
Might be a bit hard to prove it in court thoughI'd love for him to try to explain his actions of swerving in front of a legally overtaking vehicle!
freecar said:
Negative Creep said:
freecar said:
Ram him into the scenery then he'll have to stop!
I'd love for him to try to explain his actions of swerving in front of a legally overtaking vehicle!
Might be a bit hard to prove it in court thoughI'd love for him to try to explain his actions of swerving in front of a legally overtaking vehicle!
And this is the problem with the speed kills message - too simple and too easy for the "special" people to latch on to!
Funny thing is that I was talking to a 40+ year safety campaigner at my recent Bikesafe course. He was dead against raising the speed limit on motorways to 80 - "Because everyone will do 90 and it going to cause more serious injuries". But equally was dead against the lowering of limits on rural roads from NSL to 50 or even 40 and didnt like the introduction of 25 zones either. His opinion - "sets unreasonable expectations and introduces a target speed"...
Funny thing is that I was talking to a 40+ year safety campaigner at my recent Bikesafe course. He was dead against raising the speed limit on motorways to 80 - "Because everyone will do 90 and it going to cause more serious injuries". But equally was dead against the lowering of limits on rural roads from NSL to 50 or even 40 and didnt like the introduction of 25 zones either. His opinion - "sets unreasonable expectations and introduces a target speed"...
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