Maxsport RB4 Tyre - anyone used them?
Maxsport RB4 Tyre - anyone used them?
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300bhp/ton

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41,030 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Hi,

I'm looking for opinions from people who've used this tyre, pref for on road use on a light weight sports car (185/15 sort of size).




The other tyre I'm considering is the RB5:



I've run semi-slicks before so I know what to expect in terms of using them on the road.

Thanks.

Jimm218

205 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I use the RB5 on my track car (rover turbo coupe, 16" 215). They are ok, pain to get to seal to the rims and go flat all the time (could be my rims as much as the tyres). The road noise is quite something though. Sounds like a WW2 fighter in a dive! Confuses other road users nicely.

PaulHogan

7,137 posts

298 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I got two sets of RB5's for my elise some years ago. Didn't know they're still available!

In anything but heavy rain they were an excellent tyre for the money. I'd get another set for my track rims for sure but would probably stick with advans for road use.

FoundOnRoadside

436 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Look like something the yanks used on their Chargers and Mustangs in the 60s...surely something designed this century would be better?

Kozy

3,169 posts

238 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Chap in my motor club had set of RB5s for autotesting in his STi. Think he done three runs and took them off and refitted his RE01Rs. Claimed they were greasy and didn't really offer that much grip.

That's over 60 second runs on a heavy car though. A light car on track might be different.

Kozy

3,169 posts

238 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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FoundOnRoadside said:
Look like something the yanks used on their Chargers and Mustangs in the 60s...surely something designed this century would be better?
Sounds like it suits 300bhp down to the ground then... tongue out

300bhp/ton

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Thursday 14th June 2012
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FoundOnRoadside said:
Look like something the yanks used on their Chargers and Mustangs in the 60s...surely something designed this century would be better?
That's really really helpful. You clearly know a lot about tyres....

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Kozy said:
Chap in my motor club had set of RB5s for autotesting in his STi. Think he done three runs and took them off and refitted his RE01Rs. Claimed they were greasy and didn't really offer that much grip.

That's over 60 second runs on a heavy car though. A light car on track might be different.
I don't doubt other semi slicks costing 2 or 3 times more will be better. But I'm sure these Maxsports will offer more grip than a normal road tyre of similar value. I think that's the comparison really.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

285 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Kozy said:
Chap in my motor club had set of RB5s for autotesting in his STi. Think he done three runs and took them off and refitted his RE01Rs. Claimed they were greasy and didn't really offer that much grip.

That's over 60 second runs on a heavy car though. A light car on track might be different.
Or they might be more grippy when run in for a few miles, like normal tyres.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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They're remoulds and thus take a hell of a lot of balance weights. That said they're pretty good. Personally for anything other than a track car I would go for a more modern tread pattern as this design has no escape channels for standing water, whereas say the 888, AO48R, 595RS, AD08s etc. have.

Are these for you smart 300/ton? If they are I would suggest you might be over-tyring the car. A better compromise would be something like some Kumho KU36s which are similar to AD08s but a chunk cheaper. They offer adequate wet-weather performance and superb dry. RB5s on the road are complete overkill, and I doubt you'd get them hot enough to do them justice; if they're not up to temp, like most TD style tyres, break-away is less predictable and quite often grip is lower than what you'd get from a normal road tyre.

ETA forgot to add, they're very heavy, increasing US mass, which is a big negative on very light cars.

Edited by rhinochopig on Thursday 14th June 11:25

Krikkit

27,727 posts

201 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I've heard of a couple of folks who've bought them and couldn't balance them up or keep them sealed as they're remould jobs.

Personally I'd think about 888's, A048's or R1-R's.

FoundOnRoadside

436 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
That's really really helpful. You clearly know a lot about tyres....
More than you do, it seems...

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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rhinochopig said:
They're remoulds and thus take a hell of a lot of balance weights. That said they're pretty good. Personally for anything other than a track car I would go for a more modern tread pattern as this design has no escape channels for standing water, whereas say the 888, AO48R, 595RS, AD08s etc. have.

Are these for you smart 300/ton? If they are I would suggest you might be over-tyring the car. A better compromise would be something like some Kumho KU36s which are similar to AD08s but a chunk cheaper. They offer adequate wet-weather performance and superb dry. RB5s on the road are complete overkill, and I doubt you'd get them hot enough to do them justice; if they're not up to temp, like most TD style tyres, break-away is less predictable and quite often grip is lower than what you'd get from a normal road tyre.
Yeah thinking of running them during the summer on the smart. I can easily overwhelm 'normal' tyres under cornering, so more cornering speed would be great. I'll have a look at the Kumho's, not look at that specific one before. I used to run Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tyres daily in my TR7 (all year round), they were fab and a huge step up from normal performance tyres IMO. I would hope for something similar on the Roadster.

FoundOnRoadside

436 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
I can easily overwhelm 'normal' tyres under cornering, so more cornering speed would be great.
Or you could slow the fk down?

300bhp/ton

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210 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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rhinochopig said:
Kumho KU36s
Any idea where you can get these from? Google is only showing one UK place and they don't do the size I need. Can't even see them on the Kumho website. Thanks.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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FoundOnRoadside said:
300bhp/ton said:
I can easily overwhelm 'normal' tyres under cornering, so more cornering speed would be great.
Or you could slow the fk down?
Think you might be on the wrong website chap. There are times and places on the public road - quiet times of day or night on a well sighted country road - where some spirited driving can be fun and safe. I don't see him claiming that he's hanging the tail out, outside of the local school now do you?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
rhinochopig said:
Kumho KU36s
Any idea where you can get these from? Google is only showing one UK place and they don't do the size I need. Can't even see them on the Kumho website. Thanks.
Mytyres sell them. No idea whether they do the size you're after though.

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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rhinochopig said:
Mytyres sell them. No idea whether they do the size you're after though.
Thanks, will have a look now. 185/55 15 ideally. The front rims are really narrow, although I could go wider on the rear.

cptsideways

13,783 posts

272 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Do not run them as a road tyre, past experience says they are the noisiest things ever, they don't work from cold, they dont work when hot, are almost twice the weight of a normal tyre with handling to match. The carcasses are always different makes being remoulds so the car will never track straight or steer properly.


300bhp/ton

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Thursday 14th June 2012
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cptsideways said:
Do not run them as a road tyre, past experience says they are the noisiest things ever, they don't work from cold, they dont work when hot, are almost twice the weight of a normal tyre with handling to match. The carcasses are always different makes being remoulds so the car will never track straight or steer properly.
Amazing the company is still in business if they are that bad. Surely they'd have no repeat business? Certainly doesn't sound promising.