Abarth 500 - I am confused.
Abarth 500 - I am confused.
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wildcat45

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8,143 posts

209 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Some of you may have read my previous threads about RS Clio and Abarth Punto - I am thiking of ditching my MX5 for something with a back seat that is not a shopping car.

Local Abarth dealer didn't have a Punto in for me to see but did chuck me the keys to a 500.

Wow!

As someone used to an agile but slowish MX5 MKIII 1.8 and an agile but chunky Mazda CX-7, it was a revelation.

Really like it.

One thing is nagging me. Is it too girly for a fat bloke of 41 to drive? It will be my wife's motor and mine equally, but we share the cars for what we need, so one day it could be a fight for the MX5 keys because it is sunny, the next the CX-7 because one of us has a longer trip or needs to carry stuff.

So will I look stupid in an Abarth 500? I have a few friends with 500s - they are all girls.

Ultimately I don't care what others think. If I like it, I like it, but I do have to admit to a nagging part of my brain tellng me "No"

My silly hang ups aside, I am confused about the car's heritage. I read this road test.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/03/review-20...

Now it is an American market magazine. Is the US version of the Abarth 500 a completely differnt beast then? The engine it says was based on a Fiat unit but with the performance work being done in the states by MOPAR. Is it built in Mexico just for the US?

No probs with haveing a car worked over by MOPAR, but I thought the Abarth 500 was built in a special Italian plant, by Italians and warmed over by chaps from the Austro-italian Abarth chap's company.

Contigo

3,122 posts

229 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Do what you feel is right and as you say don't worry about what others think, I personally like the 500 Abarth and would easily drive and own one.


Bill Carr

2,234 posts

254 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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If you can drive a MX5, you can drive an Abarth.

(Says the current owner of a Fiat 500, and previous owner of 2 MX5s.)

uzzi

222 posts

223 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Fiat 500 is a little girly, yes. The Abarth however, is not. BUY IT!

:-D

Billy_rfc

587 posts

275 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Man drives Mx5 and thinks a 500 is girlylaugh Just do it! I prefer them in that dark silver colour rather than the usual white.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

254 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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uzzi said:
Fiat 500 is a little girly, yes.
rolleyes

kambites

70,288 posts

241 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Does it matter?

I've never understood why anyone cares whether their car is "girly", are you worried you'll turn into a girl if you drive it?

wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,143 posts

209 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Billy_rfc said:
Man drives Mx5 and thinks a 500 is girlylaugh Just do it! I prefer them in that dark silver colour rather than the usual white.
yeah, good point. I mean, I should be used to any abuse coming my way at traffic lights. At least in an Abarth I can get the hell out of there quickly.

:-)

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

275 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Not girly... Very cool...


Chris71

21,548 posts

262 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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I don't think the reaction to the Abarth is that bad. I personally love it.

It is a car that trades on character more than finesse, admittedly, but that's no bad thing in an era when a lot of mainstream cars are rather sterile.

DanDC5

19,695 posts

187 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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uzzi said:
Fiat 500 is a little girly, yes. The Abarth however, is not. BUY IT!

:-D
This.

Especially if it's an Essesse.

Krikkit

27,726 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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In the Trophy car's grey colour they don't get much cooler. Do it!

wildcat45

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8,143 posts

209 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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I am thinking about the Essesse. Pronounced SS or Ess Ess Say? The salesman uses the latter.

I like to think I am a pretty cynical sort of person. I don't buy into marketing and when I find I have been dragged-in I feel a bit dumb....As the owner of an Ipad and Iphone for example.

However, the kit in a crate marketing you get with Essesse stuff really pushed my buttons. I could feel myself being drawn into the patter, then the salesman sayd enought talking, there are the keys, its fuelled-up go and have some fun.

He knew what he was doing I think.

kmpowell

3,393 posts

248 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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May I be so brave as to suggest a Factory John Cooper Works? You get the odd "girls car" comment from idiots, however it really is an amazing car that punches well above it's category. I like to think I've had some fairly decent cars, and after them all I think the Mini is staggeringly brilliant. A 500 wouldn't know which way it went...!







Edited by kmpowell on Monday 25th June 14:09

wildcat45

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8,143 posts

209 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Hmmm. I will have to check them out. I don't like Minis for the same reason, well more for the inside. However the Abarth is a riot of mock retro so I should be able to cope with a Mini. That car looks great.

kmpowell

3,393 posts

248 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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wildcat45 said:
That car looks great.
Thanks, I bought it because it didn't have the coloured roof, stripes etc. I wanted it to be a bit less 'mini-ish' and stand out from the usual 'look at me' mini crowd. I've not had anything but positive comments so far, apart from [as I said above] the odd clueless idiot who knows nothing about cars and just stereotypes.

The Mini build quality inside is solid, and unlike most Fiats won't start rattling and falling apart after 6 months.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

210 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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I like the 500, but I'm rather stumped at this quote...

wildcat45 said:
Some of you may have read my previous threads about RS Clio and Abarth Punto - I am thiking of ditching my MX5 for something with a back seat that is not a shopping car.
These are all shopping cars. Just because they've an extra name added and a slightly more powerful motor doesn't not make them fwd hatchbacks packaged for convenience and practicality.

LuS1fer

43,015 posts

265 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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It is a "bit" girly but then so is the Clio 172/182 in being a performance derivative of a popular chick car.

The way round this is to order it in black as black can hide a multitude of feminist styling cues. If tehy offer tints, don't spec them as this will confuse you with the worst "yoof" drivers too. I would say white simply exacerbates the problem.

Hoygo

725 posts

181 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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They are fun to drive but they are no Clio R.S level.

Driving one (in a great road in Italy 2 years ago) i found that they are no way near Clio R.Ss levels of chuckability.

Drive a 200 before you decide,the Mini above is a good suggestion too.

greggy50

6,243 posts

211 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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They is one at my student accommodation in grey with a red leather interior and I must say I think it looks fantastic and not girly at all imo