What £50-55k company car?
Discussion
My father is looking to change out of his 2009 FFRR Vogue 3.6 TDV8 after owning four of them in a row over twelve years.
He originally bought one in 2000 as he needed a luxury car for travelling 35,000+ miles per annual which could also handle being driven deep into forests in the winter. He now no longer needs to travel off road, so his choice of car has been vastly widened. The only thing is, he doesn't really fancy paying FFRR levels of company car tax as the total cost over a year is hefty with the car costing him £75k new. I am not versed in exactly how company car tax is calculated (or on his specific tax situation). What I do know is that it's heavily based on the car's new (manufacturer book price + option costs) value and some mix of its CO2.
With that in mind, the car needs to list at under 55k new (with options). 60k max if the car is worth it.
Requirements are:
-New
-Not a Cayenne/X5/X6/Q7/ anything of questionable taste.
-As reliable as possible, the cost of lost time from breaking down will be a big deal to him. In 500k miles of FFRR they never left him stranded and barely ever went wrong.
-Diesel engine for this mileage.
-240BHP +
-High level of ride quality over long distances; he doesn't know anything other than RR armchair comfort.
-Plenty of toys
-Something nice looking / A bit of class wouldn't go amiss.
I have something like a base S-class or a highly specced diesel Jag XF in mind.
I think the problem with this price range is that it's a bit low for the proper exec saloons but high enough so that any mid-level saloon would be spec'd to the eyeballs and he'd end up with a car of which 30% of its value would be in options, not much of which he'd get back come resale time in 3 years.
Would be interested to hear ideas and experiences from people who have spent time owning/using cars of this type.
He originally bought one in 2000 as he needed a luxury car for travelling 35,000+ miles per annual which could also handle being driven deep into forests in the winter. He now no longer needs to travel off road, so his choice of car has been vastly widened. The only thing is, he doesn't really fancy paying FFRR levels of company car tax as the total cost over a year is hefty with the car costing him £75k new. I am not versed in exactly how company car tax is calculated (or on his specific tax situation). What I do know is that it's heavily based on the car's new (manufacturer book price + option costs) value and some mix of its CO2.
With that in mind, the car needs to list at under 55k new (with options). 60k max if the car is worth it.
Requirements are:
-New
-Not a Cayenne/X5/X6/Q7/ anything of questionable taste.
-As reliable as possible, the cost of lost time from breaking down will be a big deal to him. In 500k miles of FFRR they never left him stranded and barely ever went wrong.
-Diesel engine for this mileage.
-240BHP +
-High level of ride quality over long distances; he doesn't know anything other than RR armchair comfort.
-Plenty of toys
-Something nice looking / A bit of class wouldn't go amiss.
I have something like a base S-class or a highly specced diesel Jag XF in mind.
I think the problem with this price range is that it's a bit low for the proper exec saloons but high enough so that any mid-level saloon would be spec'd to the eyeballs and he'd end up with a car of which 30% of its value would be in options, not much of which he'd get back come resale time in 3 years.
Would be interested to hear ideas and experiences from people who have spent time owning/using cars of this type.
New shape Lexus GS450H. Not a diesel but a hybrid so cheap on the fuel and company car tax. Much better looking than the old one and very reliable.
http://www.lexus.co.uk/car-models/gs/gs-450h/index...
http://www.lexus.co.uk/car-models/gs/gs-450h/index...
SAAB93AERO said:
New shape Lexus GS450H. Not a diesel but a hybrid so cheap on the fuel and company car tax. Much better looking than the old one and very reliable.
http://www.lexus.co.uk/car-models/gs/gs-450h/index...
Christ, they have made that one ugly looking car.http://www.lexus.co.uk/car-models/gs/gs-450h/index...
You say comp car tax but then you also talk about resale value.
Unless he owns the company resale is irrelevant as it would be a leased car
Also frankly if he does own the company buy the car privately then pay himself a milage rate he would be quids in and zero comp car tax.
If he doesn't own company resale value is meaningless unless it makes the lease quote too high
Unless he owns the company resale is irrelevant as it would be a leased car
Also frankly if he does own the company buy the car privately then pay himself a milage rate he would be quids in and zero comp car tax.
If he doesn't own company resale value is meaningless unless it makes the lease quote too high
2000 GTV said:
S Class.
Boring choice but I agree with this. I think it's more refined than the jag and rides just as well as the jag in the right trim (gf's dad has the 350CDI with the AMG bits on it so it's a bit of a harder ride, but his previous machine was a standard S and it was lovely).Sure I've read a few reviews that think the same.
Otispunkmeyer said:
2000 GTV said:
S Class.
Boring choice but I agree with this. I think it's more refined than the jag and rides just as well as the jag in the right trim (gf's dad has the 350CDI with the AMG bits on it so it's a bit of a harder ride, but his previous machine was a standard S and it was lovely).Sure I've read a few reviews that think the same.
Otispunkmeyer said:
Boring choice but I agree with this. I think it's more refined than the jag and rides just as well as the jag in the right trim (gf's dad has the 350CDI with the AMG bits on it so it's a bit of a harder ride, but his previous machine was a standard S and it was lovely).
Sure I've read a few reviews that think the same.
Yeah but I think the OP wants something reliable.Sure I've read a few reviews that think the same.
Fas1975 said:
2012 Chrysler 300C.
have been in one of these, nice enough car but the interior is naff compared to some of the other suggestions in this thread to say the least! depends what you want from your car really. still, it's better than some of the other American offerings i've seen in the past!Jaguar XJ. Fits into the upper budget nicely, and comes with most of what a person could want as standard by all accounts.
I had the pleasure of a passenger ride in a new XJ only last month, and it was as silky smooth as anything else I have been in. Quality seemed bang on (I've had problems with Jags before) and it chugged along nicely for a diesel. I also happen to think it's a very well-proportioned car, and I even like the wedged rear end.
I think it's one of only a few cars that would be easy to adapt to when coming from a full-fat Range Rover.
I had the pleasure of a passenger ride in a new XJ only last month, and it was as silky smooth as anything else I have been in. Quality seemed bang on (I've had problems with Jags before) and it chugged along nicely for a diesel. I also happen to think it's a very well-proportioned car, and I even like the wedged rear end.
I think it's one of only a few cars that would be easy to adapt to when coming from a full-fat Range Rover.
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