Olympic Lanes in London
Olympic Lanes in London
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fulham911club

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2,046 posts

265 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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I have searched so if this has been done then apologies - blame the search engine.

Quick question : how are they going to enforce the usage of the Olympic Lanes? Erect loads of additional cameras / police? (both v expensive options with the later likely to cause chaos)

Do people think they will be able to be generally used as a filtering lane for motorcyclists?

Silver

4,373 posts

249 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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fulham911club said:
I have searched so if this has been done then apologies - blame the search engine.

Quick question : how are they going to enforce the usage of the Olympic Lanes? Erect loads of additional cameras / police? (both v expensive options with the later likely to cause chaos)

Do people think they will be able to be generally used as a filtering lane for motorcyclists?
No, no-one can use them during their hours of operation except those vehicles permitted.

As far as I understand it, they'll be monitored and enforced by CCTV, police and others which I assume includes local parking enforcement officers.

Gruber

6,313 posts

237 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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It seems far more likely that the ORN lanes will be taken over by cyclists, immune from enforcement.

StoatInACoat

1,355 posts

208 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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I would imagine there are quite enough existing cameras to cover them and you can be sure that TFL will be vigilant against us minions using them. The one that goes from Embankment to Limehouse is going to be a scream once they're in use.

Edited by StoatInACoat on Wednesday 4th July 13:50

CampDavid

9,145 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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How to get about during the games? Try walking. Thanks for that.


oyster

13,491 posts

271 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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CampDavid said:
How to get about during the games? Try walking. Thanks for that.
Are you too fat to do so?

ewenm

28,506 posts

268 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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CampDavid said:
How to get about during the games? Try walking. Thanks for that.
There won't be any choice - roads will be gridlocked and the Tube drivers will be on strike as Comrade Crow will have told them they "deserve" quadruple pay and TOIL.

Blib

47,217 posts

220 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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It was suggested to Mrs Blib and her team that they should consider getting to their desks near Liverpool Street @ 6am.

Needless to say, they declined and being that they are employment lawyers, the issue was quietly dropped.

hehe

Blib

47,217 posts

220 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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Oh and good mate of mine is to be an aide to the Belgium team as he's originally from there. He will be using the Olympic lanes and has strict instructions to keep to them and the prescribed route dictated by the on board sat-nav.

He's been warned that even if he is stuck in traffic and knows a short cut, not to take it. Apparently, any official Olympic vehicle that leaves its route - the vehicles are all chipped - will be regarded as possibly hijacked!

CampDavid

9,145 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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ewenm said:
CampDavid said:
How to get about during the games? Try walking. Thanks for that.
There won't be any choice - roads will be gridlocked and the Tube drivers will be on strike as Comrade Crow will have told them they "deserve" quadruple pay and TOIL.
Quite. It's a bit of a pain. I work down by the river so walking the whole route isn't really an option unless I wish to add another 6 hours travel time a week. I've taken holiday for half of it though

vit4

3,507 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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I'm going to be cycling in; don't see any other way to be honest.

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

206 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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vit4 said:
I'm going to be cycling in; don't see any other way to be honest.
Ditt; I'm quite looking forward to it, though, laughably, the TfL website seems to think that cyclists won't want to use the Olympic lanes that aren't right next to the kerb. They really need to look at the faster cyclists - we use any available lane. The Mail (who else?) ran a scare story about cyclists being fines £200 for using the lanes, but thankfully that appears to be a load of bold ollocks.

will_

6,035 posts

226 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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fulham911club said:
Do people think they will be able to be generally used as a filtering lane for motorcyclists?
Probably, many don't seem to have any concerns in using the mandatory cycle lanes, so I doubt they'd give a damn about the Olympic lanes either.

will_

6,035 posts

226 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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Gruber said:
It seems far more likely that the ORN lanes will be taken over by cyclists, immune from enforcement.
It would make some sense for them to be allowed to be used by cyclists, given that cycling is being encouraged to reduce the burden on public transport and considering that the other lanes are likely to be gridlocked. But I would think they would be fairly heavily enforced other than just by cameras.

longblackcoat

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206 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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will_ said:
Probably, many don't seem to have any concerns in using the mandatory cycle lanes, so I doubt they'd give a damn about the Olympic lanes either.
It's not mandated that you have to travel in cycle lanes, just that other traffic are prevented from using them.

Other than buses, of course. Which is one of the reasons that cyclists tent to use other lanes, 'cos when a big, red, badly-driven (yes, all of them) box stops right in front of you, you're going nowhere

Gruber

6,313 posts

237 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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will_ said:
It would make some sense for them to be allowed to be used by cyclists...
With the greatest of respect - not really.

It would completely defeat the object of the exercise - i.e. to get officials and athletes through the city as quickly as possible. The IOC has set pretty demanding criteria about the time taken for officials to get from their digs (mostly around Park Lane) to the Olympic Park - hence the dedicated lanes. Official vehicles being held up by a gaggle of cyclists doing 15-20mph won't enable LOCOG to keep its pledges to the IOC.

Stig

11,823 posts

307 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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will_ said:
Probably, many don't seem to have any concerns in using the mandatory cycle lanes, so I doubt they'd give a damn about the Olympic lanes either.
The cyclists will have been long gone through the red lights for it to trouble them much...

Stig

11,823 posts

307 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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longblackcoat said:
It's not mandated that you have to travel in cycle lanes, just that other traffic are prevented from using them.

Other than buses, of course. Which is one of the reasons that cyclists tent to use other lanes, 'cos when a big, red, badly-driven (yes, all of them) box stops right in front of you, you're going nowhere
Really? Pavement seems to be the usual route.

Ps. This and my previous post aren't meant to troll, it's just what I see every day riding in town.

longblackcoat

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206 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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Gruber said:
will_ said:
It would make some sense for them to be allowed to be used by cyclists...
With the greatest of respect - not really.

It would completely defeat the object of the exercise - i.e. to get officials and athletes through the city as quickly as possible. The IOC has set pretty demanding criteria about the time taken for officials to get from their digs (mostly around Park Lane) to the Olympic Park - hence the dedicated lanes. Official vehicles being held up by a gaggle of cyclists doing 15-20mph won't enable LOCOG to keep its pledges to the IOC.
Again with the greatest of respect, I'm not really bothered. If anyone in London had known just how much chaos is about to descend, I can't believe that so many would have been keen on the Olympics coming. That's quite apart from the appalling mess of the ticket sales, obviously.

TfL have already been very helpful and asked whether I could consider using a station other than Euston.

You know what, TfL? I can't. That's where my train comes in, so unless you can helpfully stop it half a mile from Euston, or build another mainline station that my train can come into, the answer is no, I can't do that.

So I'll travel around London the best I can; if that means using the Olympic lanes, so be it. I wish I could say otherwise, but I couldn't give a monkey's about LOCOG or their pledges, or the fact that a bunch of athletes have all decided that they'd like to stay in Park Lane rather than, ooh, I dunno, somewhere a bit closer to the stadium. I love the idea of the Olympics, but the reality appears to be a massive freeloading machine, with even the smallest team having many times more officials than athletes, all of whom will be ferried around in any number of chauffeur-driven BMWs

Edited by longblackcoat on Wednesday 4th July 15:27

walm

10,637 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
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Gruber said:
will_ said:
It would make some sense for them to be allowed to be used by cyclists...
With the greatest of respect - not really.

...Some bks he just made up...
I guess TFL didn't get that memo: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes...

"Arrangements will be made to allow cyclists to travel in most of the nearside Games Lanes."