What next for car tax?
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Agent57

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2,314 posts

177 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Does anyone know what the government are going to do with road tax in the next few years?

At the moment with the car I am considering, if I buy a February 2001 model, the charge is £220, but the same car for March 2001 is £270.

OK, I could live with £50, but £50 every year for nothing? At the moment it appears that gap will get wider every year.

Or will they change the rules again? I'm torn on whether to go for the newer car or not....


Riley Blue

22,922 posts

249 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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<Rubs crystal ball>

Nothing...

Zwolf

25,867 posts

229 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Agent57 said:
Does anyone know what the government are going to do with road tax in the next few years?
I feel confident in predicting it won't become any cheaper for people running 10+ year old vehicles. Or anyone else really.

Anyway, the difference you note is due to the car crossing the point in time where the VED rate is based upon a vehicle's engine capacity prior to 1st March 2001 and by its CO2 emissions figure thereafter.

Not that it's the same car on the same scheme that has increased by £50 since last year. Both went up by £10-20 IIRC.

Edited by Zwolf on Sunday 8th July 21:44

magpie215

4,923 posts

212 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Agent57 said:
Does anyone know what the government are going to do with road tax in the next few years?
A safe bet is that it will be going ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ smile

e39darren

181 posts

164 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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The government will continue to shaft us by increasing tax due to the " environment " . We do t need a crystal ball to see that happening

andy43

12,574 posts

277 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Without wanting to sound like a Land Rover driver, one life - live it. Tax is peanuts compared to petrol.
At the moment the older stuff is split at a cutoff point of 1500cc - afaik - just two tax bands.
If they get cleverer and work out old 5 litre W126 Mercs are tooling around at 15 to the gallon, there may be trouble ahead. Or maybe not.


anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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road tax doesn't actually pay directly for roads.

e39darren

181 posts

164 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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billybob69 said:
road tax doesn't actually pay directly for roads.
Its used to save the polar bears and the naturally melting ice caps isnt it lol

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

256 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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andy43 said:
Without wanting to sound like a Land Rover driver, one life - live it. Tax is peanuts compared to petrol.
At the moment the older stuff is split at a cutoff point of 1500cc - afaik - just two tax bands.
If they get cleverer and work out old 5 litre W126 Mercs are tooling around at 15 to the gallon, there may be trouble ahead. Or maybe not.
1549cc is the cut-off - a bit of a pain for those of us who (speaking generally) prefer 1600s & 1700s to the next engine size down frown . But these things happen, and as I prefer ye olde worlde 8v 1600s to ye olde worlde 8v 1300s & 1400s I have to fork out more - I'm sure it could be worse, a LOT worse... smile

martin84

5,366 posts

176 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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e39darren said:
Its used to save the polar bears and the naturally melting ice caps isnt it lol
Touche wink

Not much will happen with the tax in the next few years I don't think. They'll just stick it up £10 a year until people eventually stop paying it.

mollytherocker

14,407 posts

232 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Agent57 said:
Does anyone know what the government are going to do with road tax in the next few years?

At the moment with the car I am considering, if I buy a February 2001 model, the charge is £220, but the same car for March 2001 is £270.

OK, I could live with £50, but £50 every year for nothing? At the moment it appears that gap will get wider every year.

Or will they change the rules again? I'm torn on whether to go for the newer car or not....
If you are looking at purchasing an 11 year old car, I would steer your efforts towards finding a good example in good condition.

£50 is almost irrelavant.

MTR

Terminator X

19,554 posts

227 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Buy a low co2 car then stick a V8 in it ... Win / win!

TX.

Agent57

Original Poster:

2,314 posts

177 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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I might just live with £50 extra every year for nothing in return, but then next year it will be £60 extra and the year after that they govt might jack it up to £400, £500 or £600? and the value of the car would go down in a directly proportionate manner.

Paul O

3,073 posts

206 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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I thought that cars registered after March 2001 were a ticking time bomb on car tax. They are measured on emissions,but this is currently frozen to a certain band. It's only a matter of time before this freeze is lifted a s those cars with high emissions will become £450'ers.

Government are just waiting until the time is right to cash in on this...

PJ S

10,842 posts

250 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Riley Blue said:
<Rubs crystal ball>

Nothing...
Not even a semi?

superlightr

12,920 posts

286 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Agent57 said:
I might just live with £50 extra every year for nothing in return, but then next year it will be £60 extra and the year after that they govt might jack it up to £400, £500 or £600? and the value of the car would go down in a directly proportionate manner.
watch out - your shadow.................

jfdi

1,306 posts

198 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Paul O said:
I thought that cars registered after March 2001 were a ticking time bomb on car tax. They are measured on emissions,but this is currently frozen to a certain band. It's only a matter of time before this freeze is lifted a s those cars with high emissions will become £450'ers.

Government are just waiting until the time is right to cash in on this...
Shhhh!!!

Don't remind them about this little earner, It will destroy any value left in old bigger engined cars.

Olivera

8,508 posts

262 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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A little excerpt from the recent government report on VED:

Firstly, in relation to VED, it seems sensible that the thresholds for each emissions band be adjusted on an ongoing basis to reflect changes in the composition of the efficiency of the vehicle fleet and to provide ongoing incentives to buy less-polluting cars.

So prepare for a shafting...

toxgobbler

2,903 posts

214 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Agent57 said:
Does anyone know what the government are going to do with road tax in the next few years?

At the moment with the car I am considering, if I buy a February 2001 model, the charge is £220, but the same car for March 2001 is £270.

OK, I could live with £50, but £50 every year for nothing? At the moment it appears that gap will get wider every year.

Or will they change the rules again? I'm torn on whether to go for the newer car or not....


Agent57

Original Poster:

2,314 posts

177 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Paul O said:
I thought that cars registered after March 2001 were a ticking time bomb on car tax. They are measured on emissions,but this is currently frozen to a certain band. It's only a matter of time before this freeze is lifted a s those cars with high emissions will become £450'ers.

Government are just waiting until the time is right to cash in on this...
This is my concern and hence why I am tempted to wait until a car pre March 01 comes up. I won't be doing many miles so am able to take the hit on petrol if I must, but to then be stung again on the VED would really wind me up.