Your thoughts on downgrading...
Your thoughts on downgrading...
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HBFS

Original Poster:

803 posts

217 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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The short version:

Thinking about downgrading to an eco-box as I do fewer miles now and don't get to enjoy the car I have finance on. Can buy something cheaper for cash easily. Who's done it before?

Long:

I've had my mk2 Fabia vRS for about a year now, but my circumstances have changed considerably since. Mainly that I'm now an internal and thus not the car allowance scheme, no fuel card anymore and my drive to work is just 12 minutes instead of the 30 it used to be.

I used to have loads of fun in the car, but I don't do many miles anymore so don't really enjoy it. Which annoys me as it's costing me at least £265 per month on finance and maybe around £100 in fuel @ 30 mpg (Car runs rich on and never gets fully warmed up on the 6 miles trip to work.)

So I've been thinking about getting an eco-box, like a Toyota Aygo.
I can raise £4k cash from selling my car and from my income easy.
Real world Fuel economy should be at least 50% better, less tax, less insurance, tyres and servicing all less.
Maybe I'd have a bit of fun in these, with them being lightweight and having to work them harder to reach current the same speeds.

Afford-ability with the current car is not an issue, dead easy for me. I just resent paying a premium for something I no longer enjoy and will probably sell in another year...
Hopefully in a years time, I'll be an external in my role (not a pipe-dream, realistic as confirmed by my boss.) When I do that I won't want to be doing 25k miles PA in a Fabia...


Your thoughts and questions most welcome.

Edited by HBFS on Sunday 22 July 09:21

xRIEx

8,180 posts

174 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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12 minute drive? Get a pushbike and cycle to work, keep the car* and go back to driving for fun.


 *Or get a different fun car - MX5?

ED209

6,011 posts

270 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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Hang on, is a fabia vrs not an eco box already ? (if its the diesel one)

EddieFelson

1,168 posts

240 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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I'd sell it and get a fun car. Even more so as you've got such a short commute.

Schuey M

178 posts

168 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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Short version:

Dont do it.

Long version:


It will depress you every day u drive it. Hatefull things these small eco cars; totally soul less.

GTiFrank

629 posts

210 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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Cycle to work in the nicer weather, buy a barge for the winter?

Personally would rather be doing 25k per year in a fabia VRS than an Aygo...

What is your town, country or motorway miles ratio?

V88Dicky

7,363 posts

209 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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An older, fun car with a petrol engine (if you must drive to work).

Or a scooter and a nice weekend car.

HBFS

Original Poster:

803 posts

217 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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xRIEx said:
12 minute drive? Get a pushbike and cycle to work, keep the car* and go back to driving for fun.


 *Or get a different fun car - MX5?
Lots have said bike it, but it's not for me. Always disliked cycles sharing the roads with cars.
Would definitely consider an mx-5 though (Or similar)! It'd probably have the same running costs, but I could ditch the finance and buy cash.

ED209 said:
Hang on, is a fabia vrs not an eco box already ? (if its the diesel one)
Nope, petrol. It can be economical but you have to be extremely light-footed. Not much fun.

EddieFelson

1,168 posts

240 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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For £265 a month you could buy a 911 (964/996), Lotus Elise s1/s2, TVR etc and drive or walk to work.

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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Spend 2k on a 15 year old Beemer and then be glad you don't have to drive one of the most gay cars on the road (auto, or the like)
That's what I'd do anyway. (if I didn't want to cycle, that is)

HBFS

Original Poster:

803 posts

217 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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Just a thought, Panda 100hp's are in budget...

mike9009

10,235 posts

269 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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Smart roadster?



HBFS

Original Poster:

803 posts

217 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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mike9009 said:
Smart roadster?
Very good suggestion. I've heard these are fun. Browsing the classifieds now!

Heartworm

1,938 posts

187 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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HBFS said:
Very good suggestion. I've heard these are fun. Browsing the classifieds now!
I had huge fun in mine, so much so I still have it but it's done less than 20 miles in 18 months now. Everyone mentions the gearbox, but once you get used to it then they are great fun!

HBFS

Original Poster:

803 posts

217 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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Heartworm said:
I had huge fun in mine, so much so I still have it but it's done less than 20 miles in 18 months now. Everyone mentions the gearbox, but once you get used to it then they are great fun!
Sell it to me?!
What sort of mpg do you get?

mike9009

10,235 posts

269 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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I used to get about 46mpg around town, got 59mpg on a steady run in France on holiday. So not too bad......

Mike

Heartworm

1,938 posts

187 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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HBFS said:
Sell it to me?!
What sort of mpg do you get?
Mid 40's. Other advantage I find is you can go for a drive, it feels good, you're pushing on pretty hard, but it's not over the limits. Goes fine on the motorway too. I'm 6'2 and find it comfortable to drive.

The plan was for my other half to drive it, but think she has given up on the plan to drive after failing the test,

EDIT: It's also a whole lot of fun to take to roof down and put the heated seats on for a drive on a frosty winter morning!

Edited by Heartworm on Sunday 22 July 10:05

John the Blind

87 posts

242 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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I have been having the same thoughts for about 12 months, and my advice would be to sit down with a spreadsheet and actually accurately calculate what your savings are likely to be.

I have an XKR as a daily drive and use it very little (4k a year max). I was looking at dropping into something like a Mini, Focus etc, so did the sums.

The fuel saving was huge in percentage terms, but in real £ notes in your pocket term it was buttons.

The tax was lower, as was the insurance.

However when I factored in the expected depreciation/future value of the vehicles (bearing in mind that I have already taken the pain on the Jag), it turned out cheaper over 3 years keep and run the Jag compared with a Mini by £50 per month.

Did the same sums after my friend traded a 996 for an Audi diesel, and he does 15k per year. Again, the fuel saving over 3 years just equalled his deposit on the Audi.

Easy to be tempted by the perceived savings, I know I was. However I kind of guess you are on this site as you like your motors ...... is it worth driving a eco-car it for a few quid in your pocket a month?

John


frosted

3,549 posts

203 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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If you don't enjoy the car, sell it. I've done it and I resented it everyday until I sold it. I would go down the moped route for a bit and then decide on what I want

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

182 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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Aygo's are surprisingly fun in a "rev the tits off a perky 3 cylinder" kinda way. But it will seem chronically underpowered compared to the VRS.